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Old 01-17-2013, 11:46 AM   #1
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Best way to do guitar guitar pre-production

We have tracked Guitar/bass/rhyhtmn guitar for an upcoming album and I want to do some pre-production.

What is the best way to go about doing this?

I have the basics for recording:

Studio Monitors, SM57, Reaper.

Hoewver, I cannot crank up my bogner uberschall in my apartment and need to use something else.

I have a peavey vypyr practice amp, but it just sounds like shizzz. Is there an easier to way to do pre-production without having to turn amps on all the way up in my tiny apartment?
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Old 01-17-2013, 11:57 AM   #2
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I'm gonna assume you have an interface yes? In that case just go DI and use an amp sim.
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Old 01-17-2013, 12:55 PM   #3
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Doesn't Pre-Production come before you record anything...
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Old 01-17-2013, 02:37 PM   #4
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I guess I am a little confused, if you have already tracked the guitars why are you needing to crank your amp up? Unless you mean you tracked the DI's and your looking to re-amp? if you can't get your amp up to sufficient recording levels an amp sim is all that I can think of to do? Maybe if you were a little more specific on where you are at with your recordings and what you are wanting to do. What are you calling 'pre-production'?
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Old 01-17-2013, 02:46 PM   #5
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Also confused on the "pre-production" terminology here.

Almost sounds like you're just getting everything ready before recording, getting levels right and equipment how you want it? If that's the case, DI would be the best route with an amp sim for sure. What kind of music are you recording?
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Old 01-17-2013, 03:59 PM   #6
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Not understanding your question at all.

Have a got a sample of the recordings so far?
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Old 01-17-2013, 05:06 PM   #7
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so sorry..

We tracked RHYMTHM guitars , bass, and drums and I would like to track My LEAD guitar pre-production to see if my parts fit and if I can add additional idieas before we do the real recording of LEAD guitar.
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Doesn't Pre-Production come before you record anything...

No pre production is when you lay it all down to nail down/hear how arrangements are working ,then you rework it and have something substantive to give to the engineer when you do the real session in a studio to use as a starting point.
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No pre production is when you lay it all down to nail down/hear how arrangements are working ,then you rework it and have something substantive to give to the engineer when you do the real session in a studio to use as a starting point.


This.

You know how when you've recorded something and you get to the end and think, "Gee, I kinda wish I did such and such?"

Well, preproduction allows you to identify those things so that the final production is free from those coulda-woulda-shouldas.

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Just record your good amp quietly. Doesn't matter if your tone isn't perfect if you're just noodling out parts and ideas.
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Well I've learnt something today ^_^


I always thought pre-pro was when bands sat down and worked out amp settings and which snare they wanted to use and stuff.
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Old 01-17-2013, 09:48 PM   #12
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That's all part of it.

"Gee, I wish we had a tighter snare sound."

It also includes things like selecting which microphones to use on which drums, which cabinets, etc. - whether or not to use the SSL desk preamps or the Avalon preamps for such-and-such a track, etc.

I read an article years ago about how Mutt Lange would spend an entire day auditioning microphone and preamp and snare drum combinations to get just the right snare sound.

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That's what all the big name studios do for the big acts. I watched a documentary about In Flames doing one of their later albums and they did a similar thing.

That's what's gonna be missing when no one can afford those studios anymore (due to lack of labels to give production loans) that perfectionism that you just can't justify in a more newbie studio.
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Old 01-17-2013, 10:07 PM   #14
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Every recording i ever do is "pre"production... haha, right when i think i have it nailed i go hmmmm, i kinda like it better with the chugga chugga right there. ALWAYS better with the chugga chugga...
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