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Old 01-19-2013, 10:30 AM   #1
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From classic rock to heavy metal

So, as the title suggests I'm looking for a bridge humbucker to go from classic rock/blues rock right up to heavy metal. My metal of choice is is quite varied, from thrash to stoner, from djent to death metal. I live in the UK and my budget is essentially unlimited as pickups don't (I think) go above around 300 unless it's like original '52 les paul pickups. Thanks in advance
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Old 01-19-2013, 10:35 AM   #2
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Seymour Duncan JB is a good do it all pickup

What amp do you have? That may make it usless to upgrade your pickup when what you might need is a diff amp.
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Old 01-19-2013, 10:40 AM   #3
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Seymour Duncan JB is a good do it all pickup

What amp do you have? That may make it useless to upgrade your pickup when what you might need is a diff amp.


Yeah, I was looking at the BKP Holydiver, which is like the JB


Edit:My amp at the moment is an orange jim root terror
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I think BKP are good pickups, but here in the US they are very overpriced for what you get, SD is $75ish and BKP is $190ish each

How do you like the #4 amp? I have yet to play one, but they look pretty cool for home use. How does it compare to the rockerverb?
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I think BKP are good pickups, but here in the US they are very overpriced for what you get, SD is $75ish and BKP is $190ish each

How do you like the #4 amp? I have yet to play one, but they look pretty cool for home use. How does it compare to the rockerverb?


Never played the rockerverb, but it can easily emulate Jim Roots tone, and he uses the full 100 watt rockerverb. Cleans are louder then I expected as well It's a great amp, more than loud enough for a gig with a 2x12. When you boost it with a tubescreamer it kicks balls, let me tell you.

As for the price, I'm an Englander so SD's are like 70 and BKP's are 110 so I'd rather shell out the extra 40 if it meant better tone
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Old 01-19-2013, 10:56 AM   #7
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Yeah thats a lot closer in price than what we get here.

Glad to here you like the #4. What do they run in the uK, because they are $700ish new here.
You might as well give the BKP a shot since the price is alot closer, but I still don't think that BKP is worth an extra 40 (at least the models I have tried Aftermath/Nailbomb)
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Yeah thats a lot closer in price than what we get here.

Glad to here you like the #4. What do they run in the uK, because they are $700ish new here.
You might as well give the BKP a shot since the price is alot closer, but I still don't think that BKP is worth an extra 40 (at least the models I have tried Aftermath/Nailbomb)


Mine was 439, which is $800 dollars. Rip off Britain!


And about BKP's, what didn't you like about them?
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They look great for heavy metal but I'm not sure about the classic rock side. What do you think?
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Mine was 439, which is $800 dollars. Rip off Britain!


And about BKP's, what didn't you like about them?

It was not that they were not good pickups, it was the fact the price is so high when I can get something just as good for less than 1/2 the price.
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What amp? What guitar? What gear?

If you take the alnico Blackhawks, it might be a better mid point for classic rock. Maybe get a special order and ask if Tim can use Alnico 4 magnets? It might give you a smoother sound.

That said, for a lot of intents and purposes, the tone needed for classic rock and metal can be quite different. Depending on what sound you are looking for, you might not be able to get it out of one basic guitar and a mid range amp.
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Well, if you're going Seymour Duncan, the two pickups I recomend for the bridge are:

JB Model
Pearly Gates

I have both, and the JB is a perfect do-it-all pickup. If you want a little less output and/or a little more "scooped" sound, the Pearly Gates is the way to go. Basically, the JB has a more complex midrange and a little more punch and output to it. I also think that the PG is a tad brighter. For the neck, go AlNiCo II Pro for warmer, smoother tones, '59 for classic PAF tones, and Jazz for the best cleans.

As for BKP, if you have a Les Paul, the Nailbombs are basically their workhorse pickup, although it's probably higher output than the JB (I don't remember and I don't feel like looking it up right now). I'm a fan of the Cold Sweats, too, but I'm not sure that they would be a good do-it-all pup.

If you go Dimarzio, the Crunchlab/Liquifire combo is a pretty solid choice.

Really, any PAF-based pup will be fine for you. If you go with a more classic-style PAF, don't bother with BKP. Their PAF isn't that inspiring, from what I understand, and certainly isn't worth the extra money for such a common type of pickup.
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Old 01-20-2013, 12:47 AM   #13
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I also recommend the Seymour Duncan JB. I have a JB in my Jackson and it sounds great.
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I'm gonna cast my vote for SD Pearly Gates too.
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SD Custom seems like the obvious choice to me..
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Old 01-20-2013, 03:28 PM   #16
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Seymour duncan it is then!! Seems like the BKP hype is over...
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SD Custom would work very well.
Maybe the Custom/59 hybrid might be worth a shot just as well.

Personally I have no experience with Bareknuckles.
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Old 01-20-2013, 03:59 PM   #18
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i dunno about that. I mean the few BKPs i have wipe the floor with the duncans I have (IMO). But so do most handwound pickups I've tried. Plus considering most people on here aren't in the UK, there are better value options from handwinders in the US (and in the UK too, it has to be said).
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