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Old 01-15-2013, 10:04 AM   #1
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Help! I need an amp!

Now, here's my dilemma... I pawned off just about every bit of musical gear I owned to buy an ESP MII (WORTH IT!!!!) and I need to buy a new amp. I'm buying a good analog distortion pedal by T.C. Electronics called the Rottweiler (Also awesome!)

I need an amp that's lightweight, under 50 pounds, Combo, has a lot of headroom, can handle pedals well (no exceptions to this. I don't want a bunch of people replying to this telling me that I should just buy an amp and use the distortion on that instead) and can handle its own in a jam session against a drummer that should probably swap out his drum heads and cymbals every 10 minutes due to how hard he beats them lol

Open to suggestions up to $1000 dollars!

I've no idea what I should do!
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Old 01-15-2013, 10:19 AM   #2
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I do but you've already said I'm not allowed to say what I think you should do.
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Old 01-15-2013, 10:41 AM   #3
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I do but you've already said I'm not allowed to say what I think you should do.


What benefit would it have over a good distortion pedal?
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Old 01-15-2013, 10:53 AM   #4
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with such a high budget check out the Deluxe reverb, if your sound comes from pedals then you can't really beat a fender for a platform
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I would recommend the marshal MG100

Very versatile and quality sound. It should treat you well
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Old 01-15-2013, 11:02 AM   #5
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with such a high budget check out the Deluxe reverb, if your sound comes from pedals then you can't really beat a fender for a platform


I'd take heed. But, I never really cared much for fender amps... and I think it'd be kinda goofy playing stuff like this: out of a fender deluxe reverb!
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Old 01-15-2013, 11:24 AM   #6
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alright then i guess you'd better give us the ever so popular UG list of info people need to help you find the right one.

Budget/Style/Current gear/location/whatever else
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Old 01-15-2013, 12:14 PM   #7
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What benefit would it have over a good distortion pedal?


depends on the exact sounds you're after, but assuming you play what i think you play (considering you have an esp MII), it'd basically have the benefit of sounding (and as importantly, feeling) way, way better. IMO.

what stuff do you mainly play?

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I'd take heed. But, I never really cared much for fender amps... and I think it'd be kinda goofy playing stuff like this: out of a fender deluxe reverb!


well sure, but i mean you're the one who said you wanted to use pedals and not to suggest distortion-orientated amps.

I mean if i said I wanted recommendations on shoes to wear for a wedding but said I only like trainers/sneakers, and then someone came along and suggested a pair of sneakers/trainers, I could hardly turn round and say, "But I'd feel a bit silly wearing sneakers/trainers to a wedding!"
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Old 01-15-2013, 12:18 PM   #8
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depends on the exact sounds you're after, but assuming you play what i think you play (considering you have an esp MII), it'd basically have the benefit of sounding (and as importantly, feeling) way, way better. IMO.

what stuff do you mainly play?



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I don't even want to help you TS. Your aren't very open to opinions. Hopefully you can tell us what type of music you play so we can suggest a good amp that doesn't suck(and may take a pedals well- this way you can see the error of your ways)


What type of music are you playing? List some similar examples please.

What part of the world are you located in? What is the largest city close to you?


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Old 01-15-2013, 12:21 PM   #9
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New Power Metal band I've never heard of?

Awesome.

Just based on that alone, I think looking at ENGL, Marshall's and (obviously) the Peavey stuff.

But TS why don't you want an amp that can do it right off the bat? Instead of using a non suitable amp and a distortion pedal that IMO would sound flat and fizzy?
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Old 01-15-2013, 12:27 PM   #10
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An Ultralinear Twin would be great if you use pedals for your sound. It's just a really powerful clean platform. They'll stay clean and get very, very loud, as loud as you want. I know someone who does metal through one using a bunch of pedals. It sounds great and he has enough wattage to play anywhere.

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Old 01-15-2013, 12:32 PM   #11
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I mean if i said I wanted recommendations on shoes to wear for a wedding but said I only like trainers/sneakers, and then someone came along and suggested a pair of sneakers/trainers, I could hardly turn round and say, "But I'd feel a bit silly wearing sneakers/trainers to a wedding!"



HA! Funny stuff Dave!
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Old 01-15-2013, 03:49 PM   #12
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Old 01-16-2013, 07:51 AM   #13
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I mean if i said I wanted recommendations on shoes to wear for a wedding but said I only like trainers/sneakers, and then someone came along and suggested a pair of sneakers/trainers, I could hardly turn round and say, "But I'd feel a bit silly wearing sneakers/trainers to a wedding!"


Hilarious hahaha

Um... I guess you could say I play stuff that'd be reminiscent of 'Yngwie if he used a triple rectifier instead of a marshall' type stuff. Also, lots of Progressive metal.

Stratovarius, Circus Maximus, Symphony X, Hibria, Iron Maiden, Iron Mask, Yngwie, Etc.

I guess that the main reason that I want to keep it simple is that I probably won't have the amp for too long since I'll be traveling and I want to keep the costs to do so as low as possible. (unless it was a SUPER good amp that I just absolutely couldn't part with...)
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ah ok. i mean if you have a good reason for not wanting to spend too much, that's absolutely fair enough. but for $1000 (assuming you're still willing to spend that) there are amps that'll do the tones you want out of the box (or at least just with an od boost pedal) which will probably do what you want better.

granted if you think you might have to get rid of it later a fender might have better resale, which would be worth keeping in mind.

it's up to you, really.
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Old 01-17-2013, 08:42 AM   #15
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ah ok. i mean if you have a good reason for not wanting to spend too much, that's absolutely fair enough. but for $1000 (assuming you're still willing to spend that) there are amps that'll do the tones you want out of the box (or at least just with an od boost pedal) which will probably do what you want better.

granted if you think you might have to get rid of it later a fender might have better resale, which would be worth keeping in mind.

it's up to you, really.


The fender, you definitely have a good point. Lately I've been looking at the ZT lunchbox amps. They're extremely small, about 200W, pretty cheap, super lightweight, and infinitely tweakable! But... I'm also checking out some Mesa .22's and a few other tube amps right now. I'm so confused on what to get still :/
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For what you want, a Marshall JCM2000 DSL401 would be great. I like some good PM and when I think PM I always think Marshall boosted to hell.
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The fender, you definitely have a good point. Lately I've been looking at the ZT lunchbox amps. They're extremely small, about 200W, pretty cheap, super lightweight, and infinitely tweakable! But... I'm also checking out some Mesa .22's and a few other tube amps right now. I'm so confused on what to get still :/


I have the ZT Lunchbox and it sounds pretty decent for what it is. If you insist on using the Rottweiler as your distortion source then I guess some light, decent sounding solid state amp with lots of headroom/wattage like the Lunchbox should be alright for you. It could easily fit into your bag/luggage when you travel. The 6.5" speaker doesn't have the best low end response but you could hook it to a 4x12" or something when you are at rehearsal.

But like many of the previous posts said, if you are really willing to spend $1000 you can get an amp with good, actual tube distortion.
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if you want something compact, light, versatile, will take pedals, even has an effect return... how about a tweaker 15 combo? the cleans are pretty good and it will do just about everything and take pedals for extra, and they're like $600 new, if you could score one used then it will probably do you nicely

here's a used one at GC (therefore warranty and cover etc.) at $400
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(a) The fender, you definitely have a good point. Lately I've been looking at the ZT lunchbox amps. They're extremely small, about 200W, pretty cheap, super lightweight, and infinitely tweakable! (b) But... I'm also checking out some Mesa .22's and a few other tube amps right now. I'm so confused on what to get still :/


(a) never tried them, so can't help you with those

(b) yeah it can get confusing very quickly. the main thing is, if you don't know what to do- don't rush it. You have plenty of time, go to some guitar shops if you can and try some things out.
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if you want something compact, light, versatile, will take pedals, even has an effect return... how about a tweaker 15 combo? the cleans are pretty good and it will do just about everything and take pedals for extra, and they're like $600 new, if you could score one used then it will probably do you nicely


I've been eyeballing those quite a bit lately! They do look promising, but I think I'm trying to find a "do-all" amp that I can use at home, take to practice, then gig with when need be! Do you think 15W would be enough?
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