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Old 02-18-2013, 01:47 AM   #1
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Is my voice lead worthy? Clips!

Hey guys, i'm considering starting a band here at college and we're down a singer. I've always been a closet singer and i've never actually had the nerve to perform in front of anyone. We're an 70's and 80's rock band so I did a Bon Jovi clip for you guys. Let me know what you think please!!! This was recorded with the mic in my laptop in another room so stick with me.

https://soundcloud.com/gojira87/blaze-of-glory-1
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Old 02-18-2013, 01:59 AM   #2
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You guys are doing the same genre we are. I'm usually pretty picky about singers, and I have to say that your voice is amazing man. It has a lot of texture to it, and you sound like you have decent range. You should definitely be the singer, just make sure to look up vocal practices and techniques for preserving your voice, singing this kind of music can fry your throat pretty quick if you're not careful. Does your band have any other recordings? I'd love to hear them. Gotta keep this music alive!
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Old 02-18-2013, 02:30 AM   #3
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Hey man, I really appreciate the feedback. You have no idea. I'm incredibly picky with singers hence why we don't have one haha. My range is something i'm pretty proud of. I can do a pretty wicked Jim Gillette (Nitro) scream \M/ When I first started, I was pulling the grit from my throat. However, i've since been working with it a lot and a lot of what you heard in the clip is from the soft palate. No recordings yet, we're still just getting off the ground. Hopefully we'll have a Dokken clip up soon
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Old 02-18-2013, 04:27 AM   #4
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I was super picky with singers in my band so one day I just said "Hell with it" and now I'm the singer, haha. Sometimes it's just easier that way. Speaking of Jim Gillete, his "Vocal Power" tapes are great instructionals, I know a few dudes who swear by them. Dokken is awesome, the guitarists in my band can't pull of George Lynch's stuff, but I've messed around with In My Dreams and The Hunter. Very underrated band I think. Don Dokken had a hell of a range too, so good luck!
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Old 02-18-2013, 12:27 PM   #5
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I'm curious what you sound like when you're not trying so hard.

I hear a lot of effort, adding rasp, trying to sound like you think the music wants you to sound.

The #1 most important thing from a singer of popular music is honesty, and this doesn't sound honest. Your pitches are pretty good (I noticed one or two errors) but the big thing is that you sound like you're trying to sound like somebody else.

I suspect this is an example of the inexperienced-singer error of focusing on timbre rather than solid fundamentals, but don't know for sure.

I mean, I guess this is fine for a cover band, but I think there's a more interesting singer inside you.
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Old 02-27-2013, 12:32 AM   #6
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I'm curious what you sound like when you're not trying so hard.

I hear a lot of effort, adding rasp, trying to sound like you think the music wants you to sound.

The #1 most important thing from a singer of popular music is honesty, and this doesn't sound honest. Your pitches are pretty good (I noticed one or two errors) but the big thing is that you sound like you're trying to sound like somebody else.

I suspect this is an example of the inexperienced-singer error of focusing on timbre rather than solid fundamentals, but don't know for sure.

I mean, I guess this is fine for a cover band, but I think there's a more interesting singer inside you.


I can sing other things, i'm actually a pretty big Daughtry fan and cover a wide variety of other types of rock. It's just not what i'm looking to do here. I've worked on the fundamentals, and believe it or not, I've come a LONG way because of it. It's taken a while to get the rasp under my belt. Actually, longer than I care to admit. However, I feel like i'm in a good place at the moment. I understand what you're saying about being authentic. I think the poor laptop mic recording played a part in this. I'm also trying to hard; you're right. I love the way Jon's voice sounded circa 1989 and I suppose i'm trying to mimic it. I've still got a very long road ahead and I think I need to work on something that is strictly "my own".

For comparisons sake, this was another song by Jon a year ago. I think I've come a long way. This rasp was from the throat before I knew what I was doing. I can't wait to see what this next year holds.
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Old 02-28-2013, 12:13 AM   #7
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I'm curious what you sound like when you're not trying so hard.

I hear a lot of effort, adding rasp, trying to sound like you think the music wants you to sound.

The #1 most important thing from a singer of popular music is honesty, and this doesn't sound honest. Your pitches are pretty good (I noticed one or two errors) but the big thing is that you sound like you're trying to sound like somebody else.

I suspect this is an example of the inexperienced-singer error of focusing on timbre rather than solid fundamentals, but don't know for sure.

I mean, I guess this is fine for a cover band, but I think there's a more interesting singer inside you.
I agree with this.

Good for you for working towards a certain sound you like. Don't stop doing this. HOWEVER: The main issue I'm hearing is vocal strain. I realize that this is inevitable to get the sound you're trying to get, but you're compromising intonation and fullness of tone. A good word to describe how it sounds is "pinched." When you're working on this raspy tone, I suggest you relax your vocal chords more and let the diaphragm do the brunt of the work. This will sacrifice some of the rasp, but you want to be able to find a good balance.
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