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Old 01-18-2013, 01:27 PM   #1
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Cheesy sounding metal riffs




Those riffs that are used a lot in these songs, sound very major. What scale is that, or what notes in particular? cant seem to work it out
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Old 01-18-2013, 03:46 PM   #2
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d|---------------------------------------------------- A|------------------------------------------------------- F|----------------------------------------------------- C|----------------------------5-7---0--3-03-0--0543---- G|----------------5-------0---3-5------------------543-6--5-3 C|-0--3-03-0--06/7-7--3---0----------------------------6--5--3


C minor with a few passing notes really.
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Old 01-18-2013, 04:02 PM   #3
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So a c minor scale?
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Old 01-18-2013, 11:01 PM   #4
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Yeah it's actually not major at all.

It's essentially the blues scale (minor pentatonic with an added passing tone between the 4 and 5).
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Old 01-19-2013, 07:40 PM   #5
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what is a passing tone? if you don't mind explaining
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Old 01-19-2013, 07:51 PM   #6
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what is a passing tone? if you don't mind explaining

It's not really the right term, it's called 'accidental'.
Accidentals are notes that don't actually belong to the key signature (or scale if you want to dumb it down a bit).
For example CDEFGAB is a C major scale, any note beside those are accidentals.
Any notes outside of the key signature of C minor is an accidental if you play a piece in C minor. So basically what he was referring to is a b5 or tritone, very common accidental in metal because of it's demonish sound.
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Old 01-19-2013, 08:54 PM   #7
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It's not really the right term, it's called 'accidental'.
Accidentals are notes that don't actually belong to the key signature (or scale if you want to dumb it down a bit).
For example CDEFGAB is a C major scale, any note beside those are accidentals.
Any notes outside of the key signature of C minor is an accidental if you play a piece in C minor. So basically what he was referring to is a b5 or tritone, very common accidental in metal because of it's demonish sound.


Yes and no.

A passing tone is a tone you use to go from one structural tone to the next in your melody. Structural tones form the backbone of your melody, and are usually "strong" intervals like the third and fifth degree of the scale. Passing tones are "weaker" tones like the second and the fourth.

They aren't always accidentals, but if you use a note from outside the scale as a passing tone, they can be.

That's how I learned it, anyway.
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Old 01-20-2013, 04:31 AM   #8
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Yes and no.

A passing tone is a tone you use to go from one structural tone to the next in your melody. Structural tones form the backbone of your melody, and are usually "strong" intervals like the third and fifth degree of the scale. Passing tones are "weaker" tones like the second and the fourth.

They aren't always accidentals, but if you use a note from outside the scale as a passing tone, they can be.

That's how I learned it, anyway.


Yes, but in metal it doesn't function like a passing tone mostly.
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Old 01-20-2013, 08:04 AM   #9
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like most metal, it's just really, really cheesy

try and put on corpse paint to really set the atmosphere if you want to write riffs like this

also steal as much as possible from pantera and tbdm
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Old 01-21-2013, 12:28 AM   #10
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Yes, but in metal it doesn't function like a passing tone mostly.
True. In the context of the blues scale it is considered a passing tone though.

Well, chromatic passing tone would probably be more accurate.

Really though, whether it's functioning as a passing tone, neighbor tone, or chromatic extension/alteration is irrelevant because it could be any of them.
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like most metal, it's just really, really cheesy

try and put on corpse paint to really set the atmosphere if you want to write riffs like this

also steal as much as possible from pantera and tbdm


Why TBDM? Who the hell steals from them?
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Old 01-21-2013, 02:48 AM   #12
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I hear the blues scale, harmonic minor and diminished within the first 1:30. Its very easy writing music like this once you have a reasonable degree of control of these scales.
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Why TBDM? Who the hell steals from them?


listen to the song
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