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Old 01-22-2013, 03:42 AM   #21
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Now assuming some of you don't respect rappers, know this: there is a difference between "rap music" and "hip hop" rap is the music that is all about pussy money weed. Hip hop is about real life and applies to everybody not just in the hood.

This is just full of fail.

>Tries to defend rap
>Has no idea what he's defending

I like how he implies that what goes on in the hood isn't real life. Prat.
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Old 01-22-2013, 03:42 AM   #22
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Isn't it about time white middle to high class kids got off the hip-hop band wagon yet? The amount of times I've seen kids on sites like this try to school fellow posters about the credibility of hip-hop artists compared to rap artists (yes, you said that) is sickening. It's about time to realize you are not the authority and cannot dictate someone elses (in this case a high misunderstood and somewhat opressed group of people with not much else to get by with) culture. It's all but ruined through this line of thinking by outsiders. Worst yet, these same people don't even really support hip-hop, they are told what is "real hip-hop" (90s) and don't support NEW "real artists" unless they are white or they know them (nobody internet rappers). They all love Sage Francis which is bizarre but then again he is the white outcast they identify with in this case. It's ok, I know what you're going to say so don't bother typing how someone elses culture is for everybody, just buy the cds and accept what it is.

Mr Lif wont be remembered in 50 years time and Gangstarr arn't so modern.



Sorry if I offended you, you believe what you want and I will believe what I want.

I support the artists I listen to. Go to Band Camp and listen to Artists like Sabzi, Jiu Soul or even ESTA. I support all of these producers and I produce Hip Hop beats myself. Sabzi is quite popular as an established producer as well. If I do listen to Hip Hop it's usually producers like J Dilla and Madlib not rappers.

Mr. Lif rapping about occupy wall street is not directed at any particular race of people occupy wall street had many different races participating.

And so you know I don't even really listen to Hip Hop nearly as much as any other Genre, I was just saying out of all the Genres I know Hip Hop has the realest as it is much more lyrical than the other Genres I listen to are. The majority if the time I listen to jam bands like Phish, Umphrey's Mcgee, etc.

Again sorry if I offended you I just thought this would be an interesting thread.

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Old 01-22-2013, 03:44 AM   #23
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Isn't it about time white middle to high class kids got off the hip-hop band wagon yet? The amount of times I've seen kids on sites like this try to school fellow posters about the credibility of hip-hop artists compared to rap artists (yes, you said that) is sickening. It's about time to realize you are not the authority and cannot dictate someone elses (in this case a high misunderstood and somewhat opressed group of people with not much else to get by with) culture. It's all but ruined through this line of thinking by outsiders. Worst yet, these same people don't even really support hip-hop, they are told what is "real hip-hop" (90s) and don't support NEW "real artists" unless they are white or they know them (nobody internet rappers). They all love Sage Francis which is bizarre but then again he is the white outcast they identify with in this case. It's ok, I know what you're going to say so don't bother typing how someone elses culture is for everybody, just buy the cds and accept what it is.

Mr Lif wont be remembered in 50 years time and Gangstarr arn't so modern.

What are you even talking about?

You know nothing of hip hop.

I'm going to go back to my Schoolboy Q and you can go back to... whatever it is you're listening to.

don't get me started on hip hop and rap, son. I'll Andre 3000 you into the ground.
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Old 01-22-2013, 03:51 AM   #24
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This is just full of fail.

>Tries to defend rap
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I like how he implies that what goes on in the hood isn't real life. Prat.


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Old 01-22-2013, 03:52 AM   #25
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Isn't it about time white middle to high class kids got off the hip-hop band wagon yet? The amount of times I've seen kids on sites like this try to school fellow posters about the credibility of hip-hop artists compared to rap artists (yes, you said that) is sickening. It's about time to realize you are not the authority and cannot dictate someone elses (in this case a high misunderstood and somewhat opressed group of people with not much else to get by with) culture. It's all but ruined through this line of thinking by outsiders. Worst yet, these same people don't even really support hip-hop, they are told what is "real hip-hop" (90s) and don't support NEW "real artists" unless they are white or they know them (nobody internet rappers). They all love Sage Francis which is bizarre but then again he is the white outcast they identify with in this case. It's ok, I know what you're going to say so don't bother typing how someone elses culture is for everybody, just buy the cds and accept what it is.

Mr Lif wont be remembered in 50 years time and Gangstarr arn't so modern.


















































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Old 01-22-2013, 03:59 AM   #26
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I didn't read any responses to my replys because if you argued my points, you are guilty as charged in everything I wrote and you should feel bad for contributing to the destruction of the "real hip-hop" you claim to be so close to. Making beats dosn't make you part of the culture you steam roll through like a parasite with no remorse while supporting shitty internet artists and abandoning the starving artist on the street. Go and paint a wall in Spanish Harlem, I'm sure Seen would agree you're so hip-hop














































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Old 01-22-2013, 04:01 AM   #27
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The fact that you even made half of those points proves that you don't know anything about it.

Enjoy your Carter IV.
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Old 01-22-2013, 04:07 AM   #30
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point taken but for real i'm just a dork so i was making an esoteric punk reference
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Old 01-22-2013, 04:10 AM   #32
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I didn't read any responses to my replys because if you argued my points, you are guilty as charged in everything I wrote and you should feel bad for contributing to the destruction of the "real hip-hop" you claim to be so close to. Making beats dosn't make you part of the culture you steam roll through like a parasite with no remorse while supporting shitty internet artists and abandoning the starving artist on the street. Go and paint a wall in Spanish Harlem, I'm sure Seen would agree you're so hip-hop



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I never claimed to be part of the hip hop culture, I make beats for the love not because I want to be accepted into the "hip hop culture"

It seems like you are mistaking me for some one I'm not, and you judged me off my post, seeing that I posted two songs that, indeed have a real message behind them which is the topic of the thread, and the songs happened to be hip hop you assumed I was like a particular type of person you know and appear to loath.

did't mean to offend you, but I don't want to argue with you about this any more
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Old 01-22-2013, 04:16 AM   #33
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Old 01-22-2013, 04:18 AM   #34
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Mr. Lif as in ex-Def Jux Mr.Lif? Sweet tune man.
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Old 01-22-2013, 04:44 AM   #35
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Mr. Lif as in ex-Def Jux Mr.Lif? Sweet tune man.


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Every fucking day our cities tell us what they think of justice. They lock the courageous away as the cowards plaster the cracks spreading through the monolith. But if this man isn't freed, this city burns. On this Day of Remembrance let us not kneel and pray for the dead. Let us stand and activate for the living, to rescue those about to die at the hands of bullshit politicians; bloated pin-dick mother****ers who bow and curtsy to the seats of power. We'll never learn and nothing will ever change as long as we stay this course of followers and slaves. I can't believe we're still content reshuffling the same old decks of kings and queens and faux-democracies. I say we hand it back to the bullshit politicians. Brick by brick, wall by wall…
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I didn't read any responses to my replys because if you argued my points, you are guilty as charged in everything I wrote and you should feel bad for contributing to the destruction of the "real hip-hop" you claim to be so close to. Making beats dosn't make you part of the culture you steam roll through like a parasite with no remorse while supporting shitty internet artists and abandoning the starving artist on the street. Go and paint a wall in Spanish Harlem, I'm sure Seen would agree you're so hip-hop














































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Dude, pull the stick out of your anus and chill. Just because someone argues your points doesn't mean their points are invalid. Saying "making beats doesnt make you a part of that culture" is like saying that deadmau5 isn't part of the electronica culture or Rammstein isn't part of the industrial culture. It's a load of BS. Also, people on the internet aren't all terrible and supporting them isn't any worse than supporting the "starving artist on the street". You need to chill and take a shower; you reek of trollstench.

EDIT: luv2gro, you should check out @TonyRose on tumblr. He's a friend of mine who makes some pretty sick beats himself.
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Old 01-22-2013, 06:50 AM   #40
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Immortal Technique is bringing the heat so hard its almost chilling to listen to, I definitely consider him one of the modern artists putting out real music.


He brings the heat with his lyrics and his message. But his style is so unoriginal and boring I've found I can't listen to much of his catalogue.
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