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Old 01-22-2013, 05:27 AM   #1
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2x12 for Laney Ironheart

So I've ordered a Laney IRT60h, and now I need a nice cab to go with it.

I'm sticking with a 2x12 for ease, and have narrowed it down to either;

Laney GS212ie
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Harley Benton G212 Vintage

I can't decide between the two;

HB - 160, Celstion V30s, 25kg

Laney - 215, Celestion seventy 80s, 21kg

The reason I've put the weight is because, for me, the lighter the better. And I kind of like the idea of a Laney quarter-stack. However, it's a good 50-60 more than the HB.

(this probably doesn't make much sense, for which, I apologise. I've just got home from a night shift and am a bit tired haha)

What do you guys think? What makes what the better choice, and why?
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Old 01-22-2013, 05:37 AM   #2
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Seventy 80s suck BALLS. Get the Harley Benton if you really can't afford much else.

Alternatively, I could build you a tits cabinet for around 220
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Old 01-22-2013, 06:02 AM   #3
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How long would such a thing take? And with what speakers for that price???
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Old 01-22-2013, 06:10 AM   #4
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Seventy 80's are shit. Your path is clear.
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Old 01-22-2013, 06:11 AM   #5
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Thought as much
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Old 01-22-2013, 06:18 AM   #6
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How long would such a thing take? And with what speakers for that price???


The one in my sig has Eminence "The Govenors" which plus materials cost under 220. Could knock one up in a weekend

I can get Tayden speakers for pretty much half price though, I work with a friend of the owner. Not sure how highly regarded Taydens are though

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Old 01-22-2013, 06:20 AM   #7
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Never even heard of Tayden speakers if I'm honest...

It's kind of tempting tbh, what kinda specs we looking at? Finishes etc?
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Old 01-22-2013, 06:26 AM   #8
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I buy all my parts from tube-town.de so Tolex and grill cloth wise, anything they stock (loads of shit).

Construction wise, I use 18mm birch ply all round with enough internal bracing to survice a nuclear holocaust. Check out the build in my sig.

Seriously though, if you want it in the next month id just get the Harley Benton, really hard to beat on price.

I may start a small operation building the odd bespoke cab at some point in the near future, for UG members (will need to check the rules first obviously)
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Old 01-22-2013, 06:36 AM   #9
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Yeah, I'd be looking for it in about a months time from now
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Old 01-22-2013, 09:09 AM   #10
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I can get Tayden speakers for pretty much half price though, I work with a friend of the owner. Not sure how highly regarded Taydens are though

/shamelessplug


they're awesome. or at least the ones i've tried are (high brit and great brit).
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Old 01-22-2013, 05:11 PM   #11
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A High and Great Brit combo could be rather interesting, actually...
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Old 01-22-2013, 05:36 PM   #12
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yeah i love that combo, i think if push came to shove that's my absolute favourite speaker combo.

they can be a little fizzy, though. I like fizz, but it's worth bearing in mind. I've also heard some people say they can sound a little thin.

I like them though. A lot. to my ears, the great brit sounds a bit like the 55Hz heritage celestion g12h30 (allowing for the fact the great brit is 75Hz- the 55Hz celestion does sound a bit deeper and has a looser bass). Which is pretty cool when you consider the heritage celestion is like 130 while the tayden is about 75 (less than the chinese-made g12h30).

the high brit doesn't really sound that like a greenback, though, to my ears. it's smoother and doesn't have the same bite in the treble. though it is a higher wattage version, and higher wattage versions (i think) have a tendency to do that. I think I've heard the creamback be described similarly (though I haven't tried it).

the combo's also cool in that it's good for 100 watts. From what i hear tayden rates conservatively like celestion, so that means they're actually good with a 100 watt tube amp. I haven't tried to test that myself, though, so it's at your own risk

and my usual caveats apply- i'm only playing at low volume and probably haven't broken the things in properly yet.
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Old 01-22-2013, 09:29 PM   #13
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Well, I've ordered the 60w Ironheart head, so a 100w speaker set-up is no problem for me.

Think I may get myself a Wesbanez Custom 2x12 in the future, with the Tayden combo. Really tickling my fancy is that
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Old 01-22-2013, 10:46 PM   #14
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Out of those two, the Benton cab. It looks like you've decided otherwise, though
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Old 01-23-2013, 12:13 AM   #15
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Oh no, I'm gonna NEED the HB cab. Can't afford (band wise) to be waiting for a few months until Wes can build me a cab. But, in the future, I'll be getting a tasty Wes-Cab to sit along side the HB
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Old 01-23-2013, 02:17 AM   #16
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Is it an 8 ohm cab (ie two 16's in parallel)?
If so, save up a few extra dollars and get a 4x12 built. Then you wire up HB 2x12 as 32 ohm and sit it on top of the 4x12 running at 16 ohm. 3/4 stacks rock. Gets you up near full stack territory (I prefer it really) but sits the amp at an easy to get at height.



Edit. With the above arrangement you select 8 ohms on the amp. The load is actually 10 ohm but the 8 ohm setting will cope just fine.
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Old 01-23-2013, 03:19 AM   #17
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I would do something like that, Cath, but I REALLY don't want to be lugging around a 2x12 AND a 4x12. Don't wanna be lugging a 4x12 AT ALL, if I'm honest haha

It would be pretty bad-ass though. But I don't think my back would like me for much longer... It's already pissed at me from lugging the 6505 combo around for so long haha
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Old 01-23-2013, 03:46 AM   #18
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Buy a decent trolley (hand cart) and you don't have to lug shit, you just wheel it around.
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Stairs, my good man... Stairs!
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Old 01-23-2013, 05:01 AM   #20
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Then you need a stairwalker trolley. Like this:

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