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Old 01-23-2013, 01:09 PM   #61
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Ya sorry Arby, looking back your post makes a lot more sense in that context.
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Old 01-23-2013, 02:03 PM   #62
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All I see is "James Brown", "Synyster Gates", "Hellwin", and "Schecter" repeated over and over.
And the first two paragraphs say pretty much the same thing.


Also, what's this about Syn's "unique" tone?
I always thought his tone sounded like every other metalcore guitarist's tone

I also looks like the bastard child of a JCM, MG, and a transvestite hooker.
And not one of the classy ones either.

Sound wise, it might not sound horrible.
James Brown is the man who spearheaded the 5150, Classic 50, Triple X, and JSX, so it might, and probably won't sound too bad.

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Old 01-23-2013, 02:32 PM   #63
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I don't doubt that these will be Synfully overpriced.

How was this missed??

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Old 01-23-2013, 02:41 PM   #64
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I had that happen, not with a high-end guitar but with one I had exactly zero interest in owning, an Ibanez Xiphos XPT700.

Picked it up on a lark whilst in GC to see the odd looks from the friend that was with me, and to my EXTREME amazement it fit me like it had been custom built to my exact physical size and specifications...it pretty much fell into place like it had been molded there.

Yeah, it happens.

Don't tell my mama I play a Xiphos, she thinks I'm the bouncer at a *****house and I wouldn't want her to be embarrassed...


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Old 01-23-2013, 05:47 PM   #65
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Really?

I'm unconvinced that visuals in an amp are pertinent, especially those that are easily 'editable'.

Am I the only one here that cares how it sounds and quite honestly could not care less how it looks?

Did I miss the memo where the quest for tone had gotten extended into the visual realm?

I for one don't think it's such a big ask to have both? It may sound great, but it's clearly marketed towards 13 year olds. You could slap a Hot Wheels logo on the front and it wouldn't look out of place lol

I know it's about the tone, not the aesthetics, but if you play in a gigging band and your amp is there for the world to see, the looks matter a bit more. I feel if they had toned it down a bit and made it look a little more "professional" they would have a better overall package, depending on how it's priced and specs.
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Old 01-23-2013, 09:26 PM   #66
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I for one don't think it's such a big ask to have both? It may sound great, but it's clearly marketed towards 13 year olds. You could slap a Hot Wheels logo on the front and it wouldn't look out of place lol

I know it's about the tone, not the aesthetics, but if you play in a gigging band and your amp is there for the world to see, the looks matter a bit more. I feel if they had toned it down a bit and made it look a little more "professional" they would have a better overall package, depending on how it's priced and specs.


+1

If I can buy an amp that looks great, and has tone that is equal in it's sound to this amp, I'm going to get the one that has both.

However, if I'm set on the tone, but the looks don't impress, that won't stop me from buying it. I personally think the Vengeance loos pretty bland, boring, and has too much black on black on black, but I love the sound, so I bought it. The fix is as easy as a few screws removed and something else put on the front. I also hate the look of the Jet City cab I have, but the price was right and now it's giving me the sound I want, so I use it.

However, seeing as how I have an amp that will likely cover the tones that the Schecter will cover, why would I want another one?

Considering half of a band's judgement is usually on their appearance, I would say the looks of an amp should apply. Why else would people hook up LED's inside their amp heads? BECAUSE OF TEH TOANZ
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Old 01-23-2013, 09:37 PM   #67
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+1

If I can buy an amp that looks great, and has tone that is equal in it's sound to this amp, I'm going to get the one that has both.

However, if I'm set on the tone, but the looks don't impress, that won't stop me from buying it. I personally think the Vengeance loos pretty bland, boring, and has too much black on black on black, but I love the sound, so I bought it. The fix is as easy as a few screws removed and something else put on the front. I also hate the look of the Jet City cab I have, but the price was right and now it's giving me the sound I want, so I use it.

However, seeing as how I have an amp that will likely cover the tones that the Schecter will cover, why would I want another one?

Considering half of a band's judgement is usually on their appearance, I would say the looks of an amp should apply. Why else would people hook up LED's inside their amp heads? BECAUSE OF TEH TOANZ



Yeah man if it has good tones you could forgive the looks, but I have a sneaking suspicion they may pull a Blackstar on us. I bought an Armageddon which looks-wise is like a bastard child of a Diezel Herbert and a Soldano Avenger and is a really accquired taste, but I bought it for the tone not the looks. Schecter could turn around and surprise us all, but as tubetime86 said, all we have to go off right now is looks, and they aren't winning any beauty contests. They might turn out to be great, but to me they look cheap and tacky, and many people will judge them off that.

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Yeah man if it has good tones you could forgive the looks, but I have a sneaking suspicion they may pull a Blackstar on us. I bought an Armageddon which looks-wise is like a bastard child of a Diezel Herbert and a Soldano Avenger and is a really accquired taste, but I bought it for the tone not the looks. Schecter could turn around and surprise us all, but as tubetime86 said, all we have to go off right now is looks, and they aren't winning any beauty contests. They might turn out to be great, but to me they look cheap and tacky, and many people will judge them off that.

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Old 01-24-2013, 03:34 PM   #69
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What I don't get is why are they making an expensive tube and marketing it at 13 yr olds?
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Old 01-24-2013, 10:07 PM   #70
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13 year olds who presumably have rich parents, I suppose. I know that my boy that I used to chill with back in middle school was rich as shit and had all the synester gear, straps, guitar, all that stuff. I guess A7X fans are rich?
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Old 01-24-2013, 11:18 PM   #71
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13 year olds who presumably have rich parents, I suppose. I know that my boy that I used to chill with back in middle school was rich as shit and had all the synester gear, straps, guitar, all that stuff. I guess A7X fans are rich?

Not up here, for the most part up here its wannabes who think a low end ibanez and an MG stack is a totally BR00TZ rig. Everyone starts out somewhere but if you do absolutely nothing, practice a total of an hour a week, and then insist on playing at parties and things where it's not really befit, that's not being a beginner, that's being a wannabe.

On the topic, hellwin sounds like something a 1st grader would come up with if they weren't afraid to say hell, the hellraiser isn't bad looking and I don't have the logo, but I don't really like the appearance of either.

Personally though if I think an amp is ugly but the toan is good, I'll redo the aesthetics more to my personal taste.
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Old 01-25-2013, 03:56 AM   #72
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It's a shame these amps are so hidous. On paper, the Syn sig actually sounds really great. We'll hear it soon enough.



Kind of surprised at the Syn distaste. Don't get me wrong, I'm no fan of M Shadows, but Syn strikes me as having a good style, and a good tone as well. Maybe a little bright, but still... I mean, to me, Syn's tone was one of the first that actually stuck me as unique. I definitely would not lump him in as sounding like every other metalcore guitarist, and I wouldn't even call A7X metalcore in the first place. Musically they're much more hard rock or classic metal.

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Here's a lil demo/explanation of the two amps from PG at NAMM

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I have a clip of the guy from Prong playing it. It wasn't bad but it wasn't for me. Almost sounded to British.

Still fugly. Needs a paper bag placed over it.
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Old 01-25-2013, 06:18 PM   #75
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I dont know what it is about amps having both british and american voicings but that seems to be the thing a lot of new amps are doing.
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Old 01-25-2013, 06:33 PM   #76
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I know a lot of it probably has to do with the way it was recorded, but
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I dont know what it is about amps having both british and american voicings but that seems to be the thing a lot of new amps are doing.


yeah they put a knob that's basically a tone control (more or less) on the amp and say it switches it from british to american voicing and everyone believes it. marketing for the effing lose.
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I don't think they gave it enough bass.



For that price I'll just take a 5150 III, please and thank you.
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For that price I'll just take a 5150 III, please and thank you.


I don't care what the price on this amp is. Not for me.


The Randall thrasher ate it alive. I saw some guys ripping on it through a seven string and it chugged like a mother ****er. High gain taken to the extreme.

Hopefully I can get some video of the Hybris in action through the hands of a better player than myself.
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Is that a new amp? I have never followed Randall. But if they have a chug chug monster, I'm interested.

I'm waiting for something new to topple the 6505. Something has to be able to.
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