myanusisready

Hi guys, I recently got a new amp and decided to show it off here!

This is it: Line 6 Spider Jam 75W 1x12 Guitar Combo Amp

I ordered it yesterday and can't wait! I'll be using an ESP LTD EC-1000T-FCSB.
I saw this and compared it to a Peavey Valveking which I also considered and decided to get it because I was told it was better, and a better value(built-in effects).

Should I keep it or tell them to cancel the order?

GaryBillington

So you've already ordered it & now you're asking for advice? Interesting.

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myanusisready

I'm sort of doubting my decision.

Offworld92

That amp will do that guitar no justice.

I mean... if you're having any second thoughts at all, and you can still cancel, I would.

Then answer these questions here and we can put you on the right path http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/foru...d.php?t=1387138

(Which should have been your first step anyway.)

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HUMANIZER

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Woffelz

Cancel it. Please.

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Robbgnarly

The only Spider that is diecent is the Spider Valve. I owned a spider 1 combo when they first came out (2000ish) and it was a cool concept that at the time was pretty diecent. You have so many modeling amps now that the spider is not that great when compared to the others.

I would rather have the ValveKing over the spider and thats from a ex-spider owner

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Offworld92

I just realized the comedy of the fact that they've put out over 4 Spiders and they are still terrible.

Even the Spider Valve is terrible, IMO, when placed next to it's competitor (Vypyr Tube). It costs 2x as much and sounds 1/2 as good.

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Robbgnarly

I'll give it to the first spider series, they were the first budget modeling combo I could find 13 yrs ago.

I had a SV HD100 for a few yrs when they first came out, and they were ground breaking at the time, but The vyper tube is deffinately a really good amp. There are a few models on the Vyper tube I like better than the SV and a few that are better on the SV than the Vyper tube.

I have a feeling TS is trolling just by his name.........

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MXR Smart Gate

Cathbard

And how many hours did you spend creating decent patches on the SV? The stock patches are shitful extremis.

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Offworld92

I haven't tried making my own patches on a SV. The stock sound just murdered any interest I had in that amp. $900 for that thing is a complete joke.

I'm sure it can sound much better when you spend time with it. But it still has a laughable selection of FX & customization in general compared to the Vypyr. Just not worth bothering with IMO. If you're gonna go L6, go Vetta or go home.

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Cathbard

I couldn't find a decent plexi tone on the SV. If a modelling amp can't pull a passable plexi wtf use is it?

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Robbgnarly

It took over a year of constant tweeking to get 4 good patches up and running. And even after that I was never really satisfied with the overall tone. The SV just seemed to lack something and was hard to cut through the mix without sounding harsh and brittle. I would say it is a good modeling amp, but most amps that do 1 thing will do that thing better than the SV.
I sold the SV when I bought my Marshall JCM2000 because I was using the plexi model and there was something missing.

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Morley Bad Horsie 2
MXR Smart Gate

Cathbard

Well imagine what it was like for me; straight from a hand built jtm45 and 18W'ers to a SV. Something missing you say? Everything missing if you ask me. Anybody that thinks the SV plexi model sounds like a plexi has never played anything even remotely plexi like.

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Marshall 18W clone
Fender 5F1 Champ clone
Marshall 1960A

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Robbgnarly

I agree the plexi model on the SV does not sound much like a real Plexi at all.

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Marshall JCM2000 DSL100
Krank 1980 Jr 20watt
Krank Rev 4x12 (eminence V12)
GFS Greenie/Digitech Bad Monkey
Morley Bad Horsie 2
MXR Smart Gate

Cathbard

One would think that a plexi would be one of the first things you'd want to get right. If they can't manage that .......

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Marshall JCM900 4102 (modded)
Marshall 18W clone
Fender 5F1 Champ clone
Marshall 1960A

Cathbard Amplification

ESP727

Yeah dude cancel that item. Their not good. and as others have said they've been through how many models and still manage to sound like shyt.

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ragingkitty

Cancel your account name as well, TS.

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MrFlibble

Depends what sort of sound you're after and how long you're willing to spend dialing in a tone. The Spider Valve can do a helluva lot more than the Vypyr Tube can, plus they've got inherently different tones since the Spider Valve is rocking twice the valves for the preamp; their gain structures are really quite different. They're equal, really. It's like saying a Dual Rectifier is better than a JCM800 which is better than a Twin Reverb which is better than a Dual Rectifier. Different strokes, different folks.

But there is no denying the Spider IV is atrocious.

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losing battle

Lol at the user name, seriously cancel/ return the order and comeback with a new thread as prescribed above.

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