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Old 01-28-2013, 04:54 PM   #1
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22nd fret doesn't ring out
I'm trying to play the solo to Master of Puppets. It's an easy solo, but I can't seem to keep the bend on the last note to ring out out long enough. I pick it and it stops right away. It's really annoying I have 24 frets and a lisenced Floyd Rose if that's important.
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Old 01-28-2013, 05:31 PM   #2
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It's kind of hard to say without seeing the guitar in person.


It could be your neck pickup being too high and pulling on your strings, it could be that the string is hitting something, it could be the setup etc...


Does the problem only happen when you're plugged into an amp or is the note always dying out regardless?
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Old 01-28-2013, 05:56 PM   #3
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More gain! that'll solve the problem...
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Old 01-28-2013, 05:56 PM   #4
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Maybe your action is to low, causing the string to hit other things
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Old 01-28-2013, 10:30 PM   #5
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Old 01-28-2013, 10:31 PM   #6
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More gain! that'll solve the problem...


I have my gain on 10 XD I don't have a very good amp...
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Old 01-28-2013, 10:33 PM   #7
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Does the problem only happen when you're plugged into an amp or is the note always dying out regardless?

Regardless, I tried to play it without plugging it in.
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It's not your pickup height. Something is either muting the string or your guitar just doesn't sustain well in that area I guess. Do you see a fret that touches the string when you aren't fretting?



Does you bridge normally rest like that or is it supposed to be flush with the body?
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Old 01-28-2013, 11:18 PM   #9
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Does it sustain well on other frets?

Does it sustain well on the 3rd? 7th? 12th? On what fret does the problem begin, is it only the 22nd fret? Does it have this problem on every string?
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Does it sustain well on other frets?

Does it sustain well on the 3rd? 7th? 12th? On what fret does the problem begin, is it only the 22nd fret? Does it have this problem on every string?


The b string doesn't have as much as a problem on the 22nd fret. And any fret below that is just fine.
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Old 01-30-2013, 11:11 AM   #11
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Try fretting the note before it and after it to see if they are ringing out. It might be that that particular fret needs leveled. Take the edge of a credit card and place the middle of the card on that fret so that the card extends a couple frets worth and see if the card "rocks" on that fret. It might simply be that you have a pesky fret that is causing the problem.
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Can't believe this hasn't been pointed out yet... but your guitar desperately needs a setup. That floyd rose should be level with the body and shouldn't be yanked up at that high of an angle. Have it setup, or learn to do it yourself, not too hard with floyd roses just read up first, then that should fix the issue with the note dying too fast.
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Old 01-30-2013, 12:22 PM   #13
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Can't believe this hasn't been pointed out yet... but your guitar desperately needs a setup. That floyd rose should be level with the body and shouldn't be yanked up at that high of an angle. Have it setup, or learn to do it yourself, not too hard with floyd roses just read up first, then that should fix the issue with the note dying too fast.

Really? I've always thought I had to have it high like that in order to pull back the tremolo arm.
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Really? I've always thought I had to have it high like that in order to pull back the tremolo arm.


No...no no...just...no
You want that tremelo, like all floating tremelos, as perfectly parallel with the body as possible. This increases tuning stability and reduces unnecessary wear on the knife edges upon which it actually sits. Either you need to add a spring in the back or tighten the claw arm screws. But, still, if you do that, GET IT SETUP PROPERLY
I seriously can't stress this enough, it very easily could fix your problem.
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No...no no...just...no
You want that tremelo, like all floating tremelos, as perfectly parallel with the body as possible. This increases tuning stability and reduces unnecessary wear on the knife edges upon which it actually sits. Either you need to add a spring in the back or tighten the claw arm screws. But, still, if you do that, GET IT SETUP PROPERLY
I seriously can't stress this enough, it very easily could fix your problem.


You have my thanks. I thought the bridge should only be perfectly parallel if you wanted to hard-tail it. I don't want to take it to someone to get it set up because, well I'm broke. I guess I can learn to do it or get one of my friends at school to help me.

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You have my thanks. I thought the bridge should only be perfectly parallel if you wanted to hard-tail it. I don't want to take it to someone to get it set up because, well I'm broke. I guess I can learn to do it or get one of my friends at school to help me.

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No problem bud, and fixing up guitars with your buddies is about as rewarding as working on a car with your buddies, always a good learning process and bonding experience. Plus you save a bunch of money and gain knowledge in the process. And what more could any self respecting guitar player ask for?
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Yeah you need to set the bridge up to be parallel with the body. Your guitar has a recessed Floyd rout so you will still be able to pull up on it. What your thinking about is a non recessed (top mount) Floyd. But even those can be set up to float and pull up on with the Floyd perfectly parallel. You never want your Floyd to be the way you have it if it's recessed or not.

How many springs are in it now and what gauge of strings are on it?


There are 3 springs and the gauge is 0.09.
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There are 3 springs and the gauge is 0.09.


Cool you should be good with the amount of springs for the string size. Only 2 or 3 are needed for .09s so you won't need to add anymore springs. You should just have to adjust the spring claw to level it out.

To learn how to do it (if you don't already) read the Floyd Rose setup guide in the stickies and watch some videos on Youtube. It can be tedious/daunting at first but very simple once you learn how to do it.
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Cool you should be good with the amount of springs for the string size. Only 2 or 3 are needed for .09s so you won't need to add anymore springs. You should just have to adjust the spring claw to level it out.

To learn how to do it (if you don't already) read the Floyd Rose setup guide in the stickies and watch some videos on Youtube. It can be tedious/daunting at first but very simple once you learn how to do it.



Very good advice ^^^^

I used to get my guitar setup at the shop for £30 a pop + £7 for strings.



Now I do it for free all I have to do is pay for the new strings.
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