Go Back   UG Community @ Ultimate-Guitar.Com > Instruments > Electric Guitar
User Name  
Password
Search:

Reply
Old 01-28-2013, 04:54 PM   #1
hollowskull100
HollowSkull100
 
hollowskull100's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Sioux City, IA
22nd fret doesn't ring out

I'm trying to play the solo to Master of Puppets. It's an easy solo, but I can't seem to keep the bend on the last note to ring out out long enough. I pick it and it stops right away. It's really annoying I have 24 frets and a lisenced Floyd Rose if that's important.
__________________
My Equipment:
Jackson JS32 Rhoads (Hard Rock and Heavy Metal)
Fender Squier (Anything BUT Hard Rock and Heavy Metal)
Fender Frontman 25r

I know... it sucks.

Last edited by hollowskull100 : 01-28-2013 at 05:26 PM.
hollowskull100 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-28-2013, 05:31 PM   #2
H4T3BR33D3R
UG's Poison Mist
 
H4T3BR33D3R's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: The laaaaaaand of the rising sun
It's kind of hard to say without seeing the guitar in person.


It could be your neck pickup being too high and pulling on your strings, it could be that the string is hitting something, it could be the setup etc...


Does the problem only happen when you're plugged into an amp or is the note always dying out regardless?
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by eGraham
I'm not artsy at all. At least not in the visual sense.

But, I did just eat some pizza so I am quite fartsy




Quote:
Originally Posted by Axelfox
Dude i like rap and stuff. Im a furry and I also have a wolf plush with a hole that i use at times.


Only at times, though.
H4T3BR33D3R is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-28-2013, 05:56 PM   #3
ComradSputnik
UG's enlightened one
 
ComradSputnik's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
More gain! that'll solve the problem...
ComradSputnik is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-28-2013, 05:56 PM   #4
x0vincent0x
Registered User
 
x0vincent0x's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Maybe your action is to low, causing the string to hit other things
x0vincent0x is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-28-2013, 10:30 PM   #5
hollowskull100
HollowSkull100
 
hollowskull100's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Sioux City, IA
Neck Pickup and Fretboard http://imgur.com/J9JyyyR
Bridge http://imgur.com/fu5axZD

I don't know too much about guitar mechanics yet, so I'd appreciate help
__________________
My Equipment:
Jackson JS32 Rhoads (Hard Rock and Heavy Metal)
Fender Squier (Anything BUT Hard Rock and Heavy Metal)
Fender Frontman 25r

I know... it sucks.
hollowskull100 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-28-2013, 10:31 PM   #6
hollowskull100
HollowSkull100
 
hollowskull100's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Sioux City, IA
Quote:
Originally Posted by ComradSputnik
More gain! that'll solve the problem...


I have my gain on 10 XD I don't have a very good amp...
__________________
My Equipment:
Jackson JS32 Rhoads (Hard Rock and Heavy Metal)
Fender Squier (Anything BUT Hard Rock and Heavy Metal)
Fender Frontman 25r

I know... it sucks.
hollowskull100 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-28-2013, 10:33 PM   #7
hollowskull100
HollowSkull100
 
hollowskull100's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Sioux City, IA
Quote:
Originally Posted by H4T3BR33D3R
Does the problem only happen when you're plugged into an amp or is the note always dying out regardless?

Regardless, I tried to play it without plugging it in.
__________________
My Equipment:
Jackson JS32 Rhoads (Hard Rock and Heavy Metal)
Fender Squier (Anything BUT Hard Rock and Heavy Metal)
Fender Frontman 25r

I know... it sucks.
hollowskull100 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-28-2013, 10:37 PM   #8
H4T3BR33D3R
UG's Poison Mist
 
H4T3BR33D3R's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: The laaaaaaand of the rising sun
It's not your pickup height. Something is either muting the string or your guitar just doesn't sustain well in that area I guess. Do you see a fret that touches the string when you aren't fretting?



Does you bridge normally rest like that or is it supposed to be flush with the body?
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by eGraham
I'm not artsy at all. At least not in the visual sense.

But, I did just eat some pizza so I am quite fartsy




Quote:
Originally Posted by Axelfox
Dude i like rap and stuff. Im a furry and I also have a wolf plush with a hole that i use at times.


Only at times, though.
H4T3BR33D3R is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-28-2013, 11:18 PM   #9
Funk Monk
Shutup N' Play Yer Guitar
 
Funk Monk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Does it sustain well on other frets?

Does it sustain well on the 3rd? 7th? 12th? On what fret does the problem begin, is it only the 22nd fret? Does it have this problem on every string?
__________________
Funk Monk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-29-2013, 04:11 PM   #10
hollowskull100
HollowSkull100
 
hollowskull100's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Sioux City, IA
Quote:
Originally Posted by Funk Monk
Does it sustain well on other frets?

Does it sustain well on the 3rd? 7th? 12th? On what fret does the problem begin, is it only the 22nd fret? Does it have this problem on every string?


The b string doesn't have as much as a problem on the 22nd fret. And any fret below that is just fine.
__________________
My Equipment:
Jackson JS32 Rhoads (Hard Rock and Heavy Metal)
Fender Squier (Anything BUT Hard Rock and Heavy Metal)
Fender Frontman 25r

I know... it sucks.
hollowskull100 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-30-2013, 11:11 AM   #11
bobafettacheese
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Ohio
Try fretting the note before it and after it to see if they are ringing out. It might be that that particular fret needs leveled. Take the edge of a credit card and place the middle of the card on that fret so that the card extends a couple frets worth and see if the card "rocks" on that fret. It might simply be that you have a pesky fret that is causing the problem.
__________________
Gibson Standard DC, '90 MIJ Ibanez RG570, MIA Fender Strat, LTD EC-1000VB
Orange TH30, Mesa Boogie Single Rectifier
2x12 (WGS Vet30/celestion g12t-75)
Boss Sd-1,Swollen Pickle, Hardwire RV7, Bonamassa Wah, Joyo Delay, MXR Phase 90, Danelectro F&C
bobafettacheese is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-30-2013, 11:27 AM   #12
MightySumo
I love lamp
 
MightySumo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Middle of buttf*** nowhere
Quote:
Originally Posted by hollowskull100
Neck Pickup and Fretboard http://imgur.com/J9JyyyR
Bridge http://imgur.com/fu5axZD

I don't know too much about guitar mechanics yet, so I'd appreciate help


Can't believe this hasn't been pointed out yet... but your guitar desperately needs a setup. That floyd rose should be level with the body and shouldn't be yanked up at that high of an angle. Have it setup, or learn to do it yourself, not too hard with floyd roses just read up first, then that should fix the issue with the note dying too fast.
__________________
Mesa Boogie Dual Rectifier HD Multi-Watt
Marshall JCM 2000 DSL 100MLB
1960 A&B cabs
Jackson DKMG Dinky
Schecter C1+ (modded)
LTD EC-1000vb
Blueridge 160 CE
BOSS | TU-3 | DD-7
Line 6 G-50 wireless
MightySumo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-30-2013, 12:22 PM   #13
hollowskull100
HollowSkull100
 
hollowskull100's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Sioux City, IA
Quote:
Originally Posted by MightySumo
Can't believe this hasn't been pointed out yet... but your guitar desperately needs a setup. That floyd rose should be level with the body and shouldn't be yanked up at that high of an angle. Have it setup, or learn to do it yourself, not too hard with floyd roses just read up first, then that should fix the issue with the note dying too fast.

Really? I've always thought I had to have it high like that in order to pull back the tremolo arm.
__________________
My Equipment:
Jackson JS32 Rhoads (Hard Rock and Heavy Metal)
Fender Squier (Anything BUT Hard Rock and Heavy Metal)
Fender Frontman 25r

I know... it sucks.
hollowskull100 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-30-2013, 12:28 PM   #14
MightySumo
I love lamp
 
MightySumo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Middle of buttf*** nowhere
Quote:
Originally Posted by hollowskull100
Really? I've always thought I had to have it high like that in order to pull back the tremolo arm.


No...no no...just...no
You want that tremelo, like all floating tremelos, as perfectly parallel with the body as possible. This increases tuning stability and reduces unnecessary wear on the knife edges upon which it actually sits. Either you need to add a spring in the back or tighten the claw arm screws. But, still, if you do that, GET IT SETUP PROPERLY
I seriously can't stress this enough, it very easily could fix your problem.
__________________
Mesa Boogie Dual Rectifier HD Multi-Watt
Marshall JCM 2000 DSL 100MLB
1960 A&B cabs
Jackson DKMG Dinky
Schecter C1+ (modded)
LTD EC-1000vb
Blueridge 160 CE
BOSS | TU-3 | DD-7
Line 6 G-50 wireless
MightySumo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-30-2013, 01:12 PM   #15
hollowskull100
HollowSkull100
 
hollowskull100's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Sioux City, IA
Quote:
Originally Posted by MightySumo
No...no no...just...no
You want that tremelo, like all floating tremelos, as perfectly parallel with the body as possible. This increases tuning stability and reduces unnecessary wear on the knife edges upon which it actually sits. Either you need to add a spring in the back or tighten the claw arm screws. But, still, if you do that, GET IT SETUP PROPERLY
I seriously can't stress this enough, it very easily could fix your problem.


You have my thanks. I thought the bridge should only be perfectly parallel if you wanted to hard-tail it. I don't want to take it to someone to get it set up because, well I'm broke. I guess I can learn to do it or get one of my friends at school to help me.

Thanks guys!
__________________
My Equipment:
Jackson JS32 Rhoads (Hard Rock and Heavy Metal)
Fender Squier (Anything BUT Hard Rock and Heavy Metal)
Fender Frontman 25r

I know... it sucks.
hollowskull100 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-30-2013, 02:25 PM   #16
MightySumo
I love lamp
 
MightySumo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Middle of buttf*** nowhere
Quote:
Originally Posted by hollowskull100
You have my thanks. I thought the bridge should only be perfectly parallel if you wanted to hard-tail it. I don't want to take it to someone to get it set up because, well I'm broke. I guess I can learn to do it or get one of my friends at school to help me.

Thanks guys!



No problem bud, and fixing up guitars with your buddies is about as rewarding as working on a car with your buddies, always a good learning process and bonding experience. Plus you save a bunch of money and gain knowledge in the process. And what more could any self respecting guitar player ask for?
__________________
Mesa Boogie Dual Rectifier HD Multi-Watt
Marshall JCM 2000 DSL 100MLB
1960 A&B cabs
Jackson DKMG Dinky
Schecter C1+ (modded)
LTD EC-1000vb
Blueridge 160 CE
BOSS | TU-3 | DD-7
Line 6 G-50 wireless
MightySumo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-30-2013, 04:06 PM   #17
hollowskull100
HollowSkull100
 
hollowskull100's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Sioux City, IA
Quote:
Originally Posted by Way Cool JR.
Yeah you need to set the bridge up to be parallel with the body. Your guitar has a recessed Floyd rout so you will still be able to pull up on it. What your thinking about is a non recessed (top mount) Floyd. But even those can be set up to float and pull up on with the Floyd perfectly parallel. You never want your Floyd to be the way you have it if it's recessed or not.

How many springs are in it now and what gauge of strings are on it?


There are 3 springs and the gauge is 0.09.
__________________
My Equipment:
Jackson JS32 Rhoads (Hard Rock and Heavy Metal)
Fender Squier (Anything BUT Hard Rock and Heavy Metal)
Fender Frontman 25r

I know... it sucks.
hollowskull100 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-30-2013, 04:07 PM   #18
hollowskull100
HollowSkull100
 
hollowskull100's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Sioux City, IA
Quote:
Originally Posted by MightySumo

No problem bud, and fixing up guitars with your buddies is about as rewarding as working on a car with your buddies, always a good learning process and bonding experience. Plus you save a bunch of money and gain knowledge in the process. And what more could any self respecting guitar player ask for?

An Ibanez Jem and a chance to meet Lemmy Kilmister
__________________
My Equipment:
Jackson JS32 Rhoads (Hard Rock and Heavy Metal)
Fender Squier (Anything BUT Hard Rock and Heavy Metal)
Fender Frontman 25r

I know... it sucks.
hollowskull100 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-30-2013, 06:09 PM   #19
Way Cool JR.
The 'L80s Man.
 
Way Cool JR.'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Quote:
Originally Posted by hollowskull100
There are 3 springs and the gauge is 0.09.


Cool you should be good with the amount of springs for the string size. Only 2 or 3 are needed for .09s so you won't need to add anymore springs. You should just have to adjust the spring claw to level it out.

To learn how to do it (if you don't already) read the Floyd Rose setup guide in the stickies and watch some videos on Youtube. It can be tedious/daunting at first but very simple once you learn how to do it.
Way Cool JR. is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-31-2013, 05:11 PM   #20
Kerbache
Registered User
 
Kerbache's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Belfast
Quote:
Originally Posted by Way Cool JR.
Cool you should be good with the amount of springs for the string size. Only 2 or 3 are needed for .09s so you won't need to add anymore springs. You should just have to adjust the spring claw to level it out.

To learn how to do it (if you don't already) read the Floyd Rose setup guide in the stickies and watch some videos on Youtube. It can be tedious/daunting at first but very simple once you learn how to do it.



Very good advice ^^^^

I used to get my guitar setup at the shop for £30 a pop + £7 for strings.



Now I do it for free all I have to do is pay for the new strings.
__________________
Saoirse na hÉireann
Kerbache is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 09:24 PM.

Forum Archives / About / Terms of Use / Advertise / Contact / Ultimate-Guitar.Com © 2014
Powered by: vBulletin Version 3.0.9
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.