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Old 01-30-2013, 01:21 PM   #21
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Old 01-30-2013, 01:31 PM   #22
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Old 01-30-2013, 03:38 PM   #24
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Thanks for all the responses. I havent read the thread since yesterday so I have one or two things to say in reply

ChemicalFire I find it odd that you are saying the Line6 isn't worth it, considering its the recommendation at my price point in the thread you yourself wrote. Judging from what everyone is saying, would it be a better option to buy another interface with better quality hardware and use some free software equivalent to Pod Farm? If so, any recommendations? I'd rather have better quality in the same price range rather than buy a cheaper one and save money

Concerning the M-Audio, lockwolf I didnt realise you meant an M-Audio MIDI to USB adapter :P for some reason I assumed you were talking about the M Audio Fast Track as it is another interface I had researched and been told to stay away from. Are the bad things said about it purely because it is possible to get better interfaces for a bit more money? Like I said in the OP I have a very limited budget, so I want to get the best possible interface for around the cost of the Pod Studio

I guess the original point of this thread has been solved as I didn't realise MIDI to USB inputs were so cheap. In 1st year in college I did a bit of how midi actually works in binary so I understand there is no quality difference, once it gets to the computer thats it the sound is played (specialised in games development in later years and it was only an introductory MIDI module so i hope im correct in saying that). Still I'd like to hear what anyone has to say about possible alternatives to my chosen interface
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Old 01-30-2013, 03:47 PM   #25
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ChemicalFire I find it odd that you are saying the Line6 isn't worth it, considering its the recommendation at my price point in the thread you yourself wrote. Judging from what everyone is saying, would it be a better option to buy another interface with better quality hardware and use some free software equivalent to Pod Farm? If so, any recommendations? I'd rather have better quality in the same price range rather than buy a cheaper one and save money


It's only there because there was quite a large budget hole that needed filling. Sadly we're yet to find an interface that isn't cheap and nasty but isn't too close to the Focusrite stuff to go in the Line6's place.

My recommendation will always be go for the Saffire if you can afford it. In fact I'm pretty sure I wrote something a long those lines on the Saffire's description.
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Old 01-30-2013, 06:30 PM   #26
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Wow, half a page of arguing about Line6 amp sims....in an e-drum thread
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Old 01-31-2013, 12:07 AM   #27
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It's only there because there was quite a large budget hole that needed filling. Sadly we're yet to find an interface that isn't cheap and nasty but isn't too close to the Focusrite stuff to go in the Line6's place.



so your opinion is total hater negative crap then ? you admit that there is no alternative in THAT price range ? AND you get pod farm for free ??? and you can then use the free options knowing at least you have "the best you can afford" input into those free amp sim's. ?

unless you have a alternative to the $15 China USB c##p or paying for a Saffire ,. it's clear the UX2 is the only opinion "in that price range".

as for Pod farm being bad,. I remember 20 years ago I though the RAT distortion pedal was crap when i got the DOD Grunge pedal ( my band mate at the time agreed and he dumped his Boss DS-1 ) now adays the rat & the Ds1 are Back in fashion even i find the tones useible.

there is no right or wrong there's just tone.

This BS about people thinking there opinion on "Guitar tone" means anything to anyone else is total arrogance and stupidity..

guitar tone is part of the art form we know as "Music" it's like saying picasso had a Shit Yellow. or Steven Spielberg doesn't know any good actors.. total arrogance.. and stupidity since your here on a internet forum and not receiving a grammy award for,.. well anything.

I'm sure we have all heard a records with guitar tone you just go but it's there music not yours..

HEY take this post with a smile guys I'm not really angry but posting an opinion is a sharp way it's all cool Beers if we meet
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Old 01-31-2013, 01:12 AM   #28
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there is no right or wrong there's just tone.


While I agree there, have you ever tried any of the Pod Studio interfaces? They're fizzy as hell. Fizzy to the point where you can't remove it & have to work around it. Clean tones, no matter what you do, sound fizzy and even the most distorted hi-gain amps sound thin. That goes for Pod Farm as well. There are many better alternatives to Pod Farm, just not many to the Pod Studio GX.

The only real benefit of Pod Studio & Pod Farm is that its great for people who just want to record guitar for youtube covers or for personal practice. If you want something more useable in a studio environment, a Scarlett 2i4 & some free amp sims are a much better option.
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While I agree there, have you ever tried any of the Pod Studio interfaces?


Honestly No,. but I have a brother who has uses it and his recording seem clean enough.


I do disagree with any negative commment about pod farm's tone ,. specially when you try to state your feeling as "Fact" instead of just personally preference..

I have most of the amp sim out there except TH2. and all have there ( from my point of view ) positive and negative sims (but I have a Real Marshall JCM 900 and the Pod farm is right on ! so i know it's near the mark as a Amp sim )

BUT when I record other guitarists I'm shock most times what tone they choose, out of the collection of amp sims I have ,. For example I'm not a fan of GTR's metal tones But last week (After the guy did find VST tones were better then the micing his amp in my space) after afew hours of playing he got his prefered metal tone from GTR ?? )

Well is was a pretty good tone in the end, who am I to judge ? I'm just recording what the artist wants. and My attuide towards GTR has changed since.

By the way Micing your amp is the best but it's hard to have the resources to do it right, a Solid room where you can let the amp bring it's best tone, good Mic's, Mic placement etc, I just find amp sim's give far more joy for the space and resources I have..
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I do disagree with any negative commment about pod farm's tone ,. specially when you try to state your feeling as "Fact"


But it's not just my opinion, it's the opinion of most of us here and on various boards. There is a point when there are so many opinions saying one thing that it becomes fact. Compared to a Saffire, the GX is muddy, kinda a hard thing to say its an opinion when most people say that. Same with Pod Farm. Compared to LePous and such, it's fizzy & thin and a lot of people are saying that.
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I'd agree with everything you've said T4D if it wasn't for the technical limitations of the PodFarm software ie. The Top end not being properly treated by the amp sim.

Tone is entirely personal choice, but bad processing is still bad processing. I've heard you can get better results with an external cab IR but I've not tried it. I've got far better results with an X50 and some Catharsis IR's that I ever did with PodFarm. The fact that I have far sweeter sounding pre's now probably helps a lot too.
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Old 01-31-2013, 12:16 PM   #32
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It was certainly interesting reading through these posts
"it's like saying picasso had a Shit Yellow." Haha that made me laugh

I think at this stage I will end up getting the Pod. I know there are better ones out there but not that I can afford or justify buying right now, and I can accept that. The only real reason I seem to get from anyone not to get the Pod is because it sounds bad COMPARED TO the Saffire, but as I said I cant afford that.

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This is exactly what I am buying it for - recording my own music, both as a practice exercise and to get some experience with recording. Think of the Pod as me buying my first car - I'm not gonna hold off on buying one within my price range just because a faster, more expensive car exists (i suck at analogies). I dont have any particularly good music equipment to begin with so its not like I'll be losing an awesome tone by sending it through the interface either

Lockwolf you've slated Pod Farm a few times now by saying there are alternatives that are much better but you wont give any examples... Could you drop a few names for me to check out?

And thank you all for the hearty discussion
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Lockwolf you've slated Pod Farm a few times now by saying there are alternatives that are much better but you wont give any examples... Could you drop a few names for me to check out?


Start here with out Amp Sim Sticky. LePou's stuff get rave reviews around here. I'd also suggest trying out the demo for AcmeBarGig's Headcase but there is some ******ed drama going on between the creator & one of the main sites that hosts custom heads made for it which really limits its uses. Personally, I've been using Brainworx Audio's RockRack but its got a hefty $250 price tag & doesn't offer as many heads as other sims.
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