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Old 09-29-2012, 10:18 AM   #1
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Collabs r srs bsnss 2012

After my last attempt at a more light-hearted collab kind of fell flat (probably due to me lol), the guise started talking about a more serious collab, so here it is. Also, I added 2012 to the title because I thought it'd be cool if we did this an(u)ally (the way I do yo momma every night OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHH)

Some basic guidelinez foh dah n00bz0rz:

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The idea is simple; you download the GP, listen to it, and pick up where the last person left off, adding in your own part.

Some basic rules to keep this going:

  • If you want to write the next part, just post saying so; this way, multiple people won't pick off from the same part, leaving one entry to be ignored. If the person before you isn't done yet, still, feel free to post and claim your spot. Then, one they're done, whoever had claimed the spot after them can go. If someone already called next, just call the spot after them; pretty simple, really. Once you've got your part done, edit your post calling your spot, and upload it.
  • Label the beginning of your section with your username.
  • Feel free to add whatever you want to (EDIT: Don't. try to follow the previous theme: remember this is a serious collab).
  • Feel free to add tracks; let's say you need a third guitar for the next part, or you think a 5-string bass in Drop A would just make your section awesome. Well, go for it! Just don't add them unnecessarily. For example, if you want a bridge with a string orchestra, and will only need one guitar, it's pretty simple to change one of the guitar tracks setting to strings.
  • If you make any changes to tempo, or the settings of a track, be sure they're done using F10, so it only changes your part, and not those before you.
  • For the most part, don't edit the sections of those before you. Seeing as some parts could be improved with a proper transition, I will allow this; you can change the instruments in any tracks that the person before you used for the last measure of their section, and any tracks they didn't use for the last four measures. This should allow you to make proper transitions, without messing up their section.
  • Eventually, the file will get to large to post. Don't delete other peoples parts to make it smaller; just put it in a .ZIP file.

I think that should pretty much cover everything.


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  • Please don't use TuxGuitar (Update: NOR GP6), as it doesn't export properly to GP5 and ruins the file


Also, before actually writing something, we should decide upon genre limitations and such: I think we should try a more post-rockish, soft approach, with many layered sections and smooth keyz, but what do you think?
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Old 09-29-2012, 10:21 AM   #2
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Interesting. What about a Katatonia-ish approach, they usually have the verses you speak of, but heavy choruses.

Edit: Also, should we make like an album, or just ones long song?
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Old 09-29-2012, 10:42 AM   #3
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im up for this , but the reason why it often doesnt seem to work is because we all have different styles and its hard to overlap them in 1 song and still coming out the other end sounding like something.

i suggest not worrying about making it metal or djent or post classic rock or whatever all of those stupid labels

i say we take a subject we make a song about instead and not worry so much about the label we give it.

so we can let the subject dictate the music , thats how i write at least.

let me know what u guys think about that , even though it might not work at all
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Old 09-29-2012, 10:47 AM   #4
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Interesting. What about a Katatonia-ish approach, they usually have the verses you speak of, but heavy choruses.

Edit: Also, should we make like an album, or just ones long song?

I was thinking about making just one song and adding it it maybe lolz.

Maybe we should work on individual parts and then add them on a final file, so it isn't as riff salady? I have no clue.

MobiuZ: I get where you come from, but estabilishing genre limitations is a must, or do you want this to have metalcore breakdowns and brutal death metal sections?
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Old 09-29-2012, 10:50 AM   #5
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I was thinking about making just one song and adding it it maybe lolz.

Maybe we should work on individual parts and then add them on a final file, so it isn't as riff salady? I have no clue.

MobiuZ: I get where you come from, but estabilishing genre limitations is a must, or do you want this to have metalcore breakdowns and brutal death metal sections?


well doesnt it turn into almost exactly that a lot of times anyway even if you put limitations on it ?

and music shouldnt be about limiting yourself to anything imo
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Old 09-29-2012, 10:52 AM   #6
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well doesnt it turn into almost exactly that a lot of times anyway even if you put limitations on it ?

That's because people were free to do what they want, those weren't serious collabs.
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and music shouldnt be about limiting yourself to anything imo

That's pretty fancy and all, but I still think we should discuss it.
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Old 09-29-2012, 11:09 AM   #7
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That's because people were free to do what they want, those weren't serious collabs.

That's pretty fancy and all, but I still think we should discuss it.


werent we allready discussing it ?

anyway ok than i quess its not a good idea.

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Old 09-29-2012, 11:35 AM   #8
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This sounds good, I've already got some DTP - Ki style riffs written down and some slightly more proggy clean riffs.
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Old 09-29-2012, 11:37 AM   #9
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This sounds good, I've already got some DTP - Ki style riffs written down and some slightly more proggy clean riffs.

Post 'em!
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Old 09-29-2012, 01:08 PM   #10
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I got this, its a MIDI file so it can be used on (possibly) all programs. Just bass and guitar atm, anyone wanna do drums?
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Old 09-29-2012, 01:39 PM   #11
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Just wanna mention two things.

1) People should try writing out of their comfort zone if their preferred genre doesn't match the collab's style
2) Try to reuse previous themes from the song to make it coherent.
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Old 09-29-2012, 02:28 PM   #12
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Just wanna mention two things.

1) People should try writing out of their comfort zone if their preferred genre doesn't match the collab's style
2) Try to reuse previous themes from the song to make it coherent.

1) Agreed, but I'm covered since I can write sum prattai post black metul
2) YES, YES, YES.
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Old 09-29-2012, 02:44 PM   #13
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Okay, dont think the MIDI file worked. I'mma try all these other types:
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Old 09-29-2012, 02:49 PM   #14
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^ A GP3 file?! What is this sorcery

EDIT: That's some trippy shit you got goin' on, but I dig it lolz.
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Old 09-29-2012, 02:51 PM   #15
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Eh, tried to make do, but I dont know if its working for anyone or not Forgot that GP3 didn't have palm mutes.
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Eh, tried to make do, but I dont know if its working for anyone or not Forgot that GP3 didn't have palm mutes.

GP3 didn't have palm mutes?
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GP3 didn't have palm mutes?



apparently so, converted it from gp4, opened it in tuxguitar for a test, none of the palm mutes showed up
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apparently so, converted it from gp4, opened it in tuxguitar for a test, none of the palm mutes showed up

How did they tab out slam death metal track back then

EDIT: I just noticed that we're 17 replies into the thread and we haven't even started it.

I want me some moar opinions lolz on the genres, and does anyone have any ideas for the beginning?
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Old 09-29-2012, 04:50 PM   #19
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I kinda liked the Post-rock-to-Katatonia-ish suggestion. It allows for heaviness, melodic and harmonic exploration, it'd probably be very varied if the new Katatonia album is anything to go by. Also gives the excuse for having one long song :P We could anything to it as well, maybe having Altar of Plagues/Fen style post-black metal sections at some point.
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Old 09-29-2012, 06:25 PM   #20
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What I want to know is: are we going to have a keyboard? Or is it plain guitar-guitar-bass-drums (this is not a bad thing, and could be an interesting new way for me to write stuff).

Also are we set on the genre? post-Katatonia metal-rock? For those of you that are not familiar with Katatonia

Another thing that just came to me, are we allowed to use odd time-signatures? Sometimes when I write stuff it's in 7/8 or 15/8.
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