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Old 01-30-2013, 07:32 PM   #1
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Apologies, Here's a More Mature Thread About Rape.

Alright, I think I made my point with that last thread, it's gone now. In case you didn't pick up on it, it was inflammatory and antagonistic on purpose. One reason was just to rile people up and get a rise, the other was to call attention to how we actually view rape. This is my more mature approach to some of the issues in that thread.

One thing I noticed is that some users felt that when they heard "rape" and then read the actual story, they didn't see it as so bad as what they initially thought. Now, this is in its own way an issue, because rape as a "man holding a knife to a woman forcing her" is the default scenario many of us go back to. Unfortunately, date rape is all the more common and less cinematic. We need to start seeing it for what it is, and not for this hyper dramatized scene in our heads. I don't blame you guys for jumping to that scenario, I honestly don't, but that has to change. Rape is a serious ****ing problem.

Another thing that came up is the notion of when consent can be given and when it can't. I'll leave that more open and less one sided in this thread to be discussed. I've already weighed in my two cents, and this is a less biased place to do so.

Any other related topics are welcome here. I just wanted to get that first thread out of my system. I'm sorry for any sore bums and feelings I might have hurt. The antagonistic nature of that thread was purely to cause a scene. My bad.
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Old 01-30-2013, 07:34 PM   #2
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Also we didn't jump to a scenario in our head on our own. People in that thread actually said stuff that wasn't in the post they were describing. That's why everyone was a tad confused
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Old 01-30-2013, 07:36 PM   #3
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Old 01-30-2013, 07:36 PM   #4
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Any time there is vaginal or anal penetration it is rape.
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Old 01-30-2013, 07:36 PM   #5
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No, seriously, I wanted a less biased discussion. That was really insensitive to people, opinions, and the subject matter at hand.

This a legitimate apology, and a better thread
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Old 01-30-2013, 07:37 PM   #6
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Rape is rape, if somebody cannot give consent or is incapable of saying no, that does not make it acceptable.

Just because you don't force them through violence, its still rape.
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Old 01-30-2013, 07:37 PM   #7
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No, seriously, I wanted a less biased discussion. That was really insensitive to people, opinions, and the subject matter at hand.

This a legitimate apology, and a better thread

Well ok then

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Old 01-30-2013, 07:37 PM   #8
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LOL i opened another thread seeing what was going on cause the last one closed. Now i look like a dumbass
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Old 01-30-2013, 07:38 PM   #9
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Old 01-30-2013, 07:38 PM   #10
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Poll was silly
rape is always rape and is always not okay, guys

ITT discussing the boundaries of whats considered rape
you can't always determine how drunk someone you've never met before is
so its difficult to say if its rape or not
but just do what I do and don't talk to girls that are drunker than you
not ever
not even a little bit
okay maybe a little bit

I hate the ones that cling on to you like 'oh I'm so drunkkkkk.. will you hold me up'
its like
bitch ffs
moral highground and all that
if they instigate then its okay i suppose
like if they're literally asking for it
just don't make a habit of it okay?
okay



But boning drunk girls is taking advantage, and not rape, unless they're physically unable to give consent.

Taking advantage is just frowned upon, right?
Surely.

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Old 01-30-2013, 07:38 PM   #11
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Old 01-30-2013, 07:38 PM   #12
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I was getting into the argument i was having with those other guys.

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EDIT: I don't think it was dumb but w.e.

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Old 01-30-2013, 07:39 PM   #13
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Sorry to break your hopes, I think it is acceptable.
It becomes unacceptable (and becomes rape) when the person is drunk to a point where she can't give consent anymore, and that pretty much means extremely drunk.
The fact that she wouldn't have agreed to have done so sober doesn't change anything. The fact that one more is more drunk than the other doesn't change much either.

The key word is consent. As long as they are both able to consent, I don't mind what those two drunkies do.
Your interpretation of what I said might be acceptable, but if I had gotten the correct message across I doubt they would. I was pretty much going for the same thing as you, if this wasn't clear, then sorry about that. By considerably more drunk I meant to imply both that she is too drunk to consent, and that you're not as well. And by saying that she wouldn't have done it sober I was excluding scenarios where the two were constantly having sex anyway and the girl would have given consent if she was sober, but by coincident one of them is drunk, which is more of a grey-area if it's a realistic scenario (my personal experience with being totally drunk and sex are somewhat limited, so I'm not entirely sure how alcohol would affect that balance. Please condemn me with proper gusto if I'm being a rape-apologist)
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Also we didn't jump to a scenario in our head on our own. People in that thread actually said stuff that wasn't in the post they were describing. That's why everyone was a tad confused


brad had a post detailing how he as well as others make the connection with rape as the more dramatic scenario. And the other explanations weren't truly too far off from what really happened, so I fail to see the harm done.
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Old 01-30-2013, 07:40 PM   #15
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rape is bad
date rape is bad
taking advantage of drunk people is bad (what it appears to be)
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Old 01-30-2013, 07:41 PM   #16
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Rape is okay when you haven't had a wank in, like, days.

Oh wait, are we not doing that in this thread? okay then.
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brad had a post detailing how he as well as others make the connection with rape as the more dramatic scenario. And the other explanations weren't truly too far off from what really happened, so I fail to see the harm done.

Oh, I don't think I saw brad's post :/

And I think they were a bit off. I mean, someone said she was objecting the entire time and another said she was passed out. Neither of which actually happened


But that's besides the point I guess. It's still pretty ****ed up and not acceptable at all

I guess I'm just trying to explain why I and others were a little confused. You can ignore all of this
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Old 01-30-2013, 07:42 PM   #18
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Thanks for deleting my posts, I didn't take my time writing them or anything. Same with all the other posts, no one put effort into them so feel free to just erase them from forever.
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Old 01-30-2013, 07:42 PM   #19
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Don't **** drunk chicks ever. That simple. Don't get drunk so that you don't make the mistake of misjudging if a girl is drunk.

Problem ****ing solved.

Crunk was onto this in the last thread. Alcohol consumption is immoral.
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