Go Back   UG Community @ Ultimate-Guitar.Com > Music > Musician Talk
User Name  
Password
Search:

Reply
Old 01-31-2013, 03:30 PM   #1
danyal92
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
key of this song

can anyone tell me the key of this song?



the opening chords are Em G5 D5 C5
danyal92 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-31-2013, 03:36 PM   #2
mdc
UG's Mr Chord Man
 
mdc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Dude you posted this song a few months ago asking this sort of thing... and I helped you with it.

You should study cadences and the basics of progressions and resolve.
mdc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-31-2013, 03:44 PM   #3
danyal92
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
i did. bt i cant figure out a rhytm for the guitar solo
danyal92 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-31-2013, 03:52 PM   #4
mdc
UG's Mr Chord Man
 
mdc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
If you're talking about the breakdown around 3:40-4:00, C Lydian.
mdc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-31-2013, 04:01 PM   #5
danyal92
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
how old r u? and what did u do to get that good ear training?
danyal92 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-31-2013, 04:28 PM   #6
mdc
UG's Mr Chord Man
 
mdc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Quote:
Originally Posted by danyal92
how old r u? and what did u do to get that good ear training?

Age isn't really an issue. You just need to get through that barrier of transcribing. I don't know how I do it, I just do it.

I don't find everything easy, you know? But it's worth transcribing lots of different stuff, not necessarily guitar.

At the moment I'm transcribing Joe Sample's keyboard solo in Street Life by Randy Crawford. After I had figured out the chord progression by ear.

I recently listening to a lot of Michael Brecker, so I pinch a lot of his lines.

There is so much out there.

Best advice is to single out the bass first.

Early 20's.
mdc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-31-2013, 04:45 PM   #7
danyal92
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
i cant even hear the bass in most songs? i can visualise some leads. but not chords i cant transcribe guitar chords
danyal92 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-31-2013, 04:49 PM   #8
MaggaraMarine
Slapping the bass.
 
MaggaraMarine's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Finland
Quote:
Originally Posted by mdc
If you're talking about the breakdown around 3:40-4:00, C Lydian.

It's just E minor all the time.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by AlanHB
Just remember that there are no boring scales, just boring players.

Gear

Charvel So Cal
Ibanez Blazer
Digitech RP355
MXR Micro Chorus
Laney VC30
Tokai TB48
Hartke HyDrive 210c
MaggaraMarine is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-31-2013, 04:57 PM   #9
mdc
UG's Mr Chord Man
 
mdc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Quote:
Originally Posted by danyal92
i cant even hear the bass in most songs? i can visualise some leads. but not chords i cant transcribe guitar chords

Transcribing chords is hard, mate. That's why getting the bass note first is important. for chords, you need to train your ear to recognize the character of the 4 basic triads first.
mdc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-31-2013, 10:44 PM   #10
JKHC
Registered User
 
JKHC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Quote:
Originally Posted by mdc
Transcribing chords is hard, mate. That's why getting the bass note first is important. for chords, you need to train your ear to recognize the character of the 4 basic triads first.


This.

Then just get into simple intervalic ear training (majors, minors and diminished will be enough for most songs). It takes awhile to develop your ear.
As mdc said, the bass note is probably the biggest aid for figuring out guitar chords since inversions are rare on guitar.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by FEngHLyan
She will join the prom.

She insists to wear this lights.

I don't think so.

How can I persuade her?
JKHC is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-31-2013, 10:57 PM   #11
crazysam23_Atax
Burning away
 
crazysam23_Atax's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Cal-eye-forn-ia
Quote:
Originally Posted by JKHC
As mdc said, the bass note is probably the biggest aid for figuring out guitar chords since inversions are rare on guitar.

I'd like to point out, if you know the basics of keys, cadences, etc., then you should be able to figure out when a chord is an inversion.
__________________
Tunes?

Bandcamp

Now working on my upcoming EP "Discarnate". See the expected track list on my bandcamp.



Terry Prachett is funnier than you! Discworld
crazysam23_Atax is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 01-31-2013, 11:09 PM   #12
JKHC
Registered User
 
JKHC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Quote:
Originally Posted by crazysam23_Atax
I'd like to point out, if you know the basics of keys, cadences, etc., then you should be able to figure out when a chord is an inversion.


That's true and it's relatively simple once you have the basics down but most guitar parts don't use inversions at all.
It doesn't hurt to learn it though.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by FEngHLyan
She will join the prom.

She insists to wear this lights.

I don't think so.

How can I persuade her?
JKHC is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-31-2013, 11:49 PM   #13
crazysam23_Atax
Burning away
 
crazysam23_Atax's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Cal-eye-forn-ia
Quote:
Originally Posted by JKHC
That's true and it's relatively simple once you have the basics down but most guitar parts don't use inversions at all.
It doesn't hurt to learn it though.

True.

Really, I'd say piano is an instrument that deals with inversions more.
__________________
Tunes?

Bandcamp

Now working on my upcoming EP "Discarnate". See the expected track list on my bandcamp.



Terry Prachett is funnier than you! Discworld
crazysam23_Atax is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 02-01-2013, 12:33 AM   #14
AeolianWolf
Tonal Vigilante
 
AeolianWolf's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: New York City
Quote:
Originally Posted by crazysam23_Atax
True.

Really, I'd say piano is an instrument that deals with inversions more.


not if you're a good guitarist. just because they're easier to visualize doesn't mean that it deals with inversions anymore than a good guitarist should be able to.
__________________
i'm on the vidya!

xbox gamertag: Aeolion
psid: Blackwindsamurai (holy **** i want a shorter one)
AeolianWolf is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-01-2013, 12:44 AM   #15
Xiaoxi
Indeed.
 
Xiaoxi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Bodymore, Murdaland
Quote:
Originally Posted by crazysam23_Atax
True.

nice title
__________________
"Man, modes 'n' scales ain't got no users, only abusers." - X.X. Little

Analyzing Brahms: Insights to Help Us Improve Our Music

My New Workstation
Xiaoxi is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:26 PM.

Forum Archives / About / Terms of Use / Advertise / Contact / Ultimate-Guitar.Com © 2014
Powered by: vBulletin Version 3.0.9
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.