Metallica1554

As an undergraduate engineer, it grinds my gears [heh] when in the UK I see the likes of plumbers, repairmen, etc. using the title "engineer" (eg: boiler engineer, router engineer) when they are practising.
They're not actually engineers at all, and so this isn't good news for real engineers (i.e. Chartered Engineers), because the public ends up not really understand what an engineer actually does. In England, over the many years, engineering has lost respect as a profession simply due to the fact that nobody really knows what it is.

Please can I ask you all to sign this petition to fix this issue? (read it before you sign it)
http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/44889

Educate thyselves:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Engineer



Look at all these proper engineers being all fine and gent like.

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snipelfritz

I've said this before and I'll say it again: Engineers are the kinds of people who love to think of themselves as a specific kind of people.

They're also often quite obnoxious.

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Sanitation engineers are more important than you will ever be.

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Metallica1554

Engineers are a specific kind of people... they're engineers.

Just like doctors are doctors, lawyers are lawyers.
Everyone is a specific kind of person.

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cptcomet

Engineers love telling people they're Engineers.

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the bartender

Haha that guy's last name is Cocks.

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Telecaster7

There are many different kinds of both doctors and lawyers. If engineers were as inventive as they say they are, they would have invented a nice new name for themselves.

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CoreysMonster

Lol engineering isn't science

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CrossBack7

Plumbers, electricians, and contractors certainly employ tenets of engineering if they're any good at their profession at all though. Just because they don't have a degree that says "engineering" on it doesn't mean they aren't engineers in the general sense of the term.

Stop being pretentious.

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snipelfritz

lol, and that kind of person is determined by your job?

Does that mean unemployed people aren't people at all?

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cptcomet

I work in construction and you get all these silly people running around shouting that they're architects and engineers, they have all these fancy names for themselves and letters after their names, and it's all just a big circle jerk in design meetings. And they're always more of a hindrance. I swear half of them don't know what the hell they are on about.

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Metallica1554

Well, there are different types of engineers... system engineers, mechanical engineers, aerospace engineers and what not.
And while inventing a new name would be cool and all, there's no reason since plumbers, repairmen, electricians already have names for their professions, they have no need to add engineer to their title.

Engineer (going by both the latin and english definition of the word) means someone who designs things using cleverness, and the other professions I'm talking about don't do that. It's mainly fixing or replacing. Thus, it is misleading to the public and dilutes the meaning of engineering.

EDIT: Not to mention that in most countries (France, Germany and the US for example), this isn't even a problem because they recognise engineer as a protected title. If this is the case in such places, why shouldn't it also be the case in the UK?

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Crofty89

You're all just Oompa Loompas anyway. Leave us real scientists to our real problems, like how to get Scientologists to replace the "scient" part of their name, which implies there is something scientific about their beliefs, with "dumbass". And of course our world domination plans and death ray designs.

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the bartender

The amount of elitistness in this one is too damn high.

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T00DEEPBLUE

As a design engineer myself, i know from experience that engineers really do love to announce that they're engineers.

And arguing semantics doesn't make for interesting threads, TS.

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Dennis_91

People cares way too much about titels than they should imo.

Powersurge213

TS seems to be butthurt

Metallica1554

I guess, in the end, I'm just sharing what I think is important to me. It comes across as a bit pretentious, because it is, and also because I care about the future of engineering.
I'm sure there are those that agree with me, there are those who obviously don't, and there are also enough of those who don't give a shit. Debating about something that is important and relevant to me is interesting to me.

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JackWhiteIsButts

+1

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