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Old 02-02-2013, 02:08 PM   #81
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Either we've heard entirely different free jazz

or I understand it even less than I thought I did.

"Tight" is the last word I'd use for it.

Entirely possible.

Entirely possible.

Entirely possible.

I don't like that I started off the list with one of the subgenres I've listened to the least, so I'm going to fix it.

Yeah the explanation I gave wasn't the best, but it still makes sense to me for some reason.

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Old 02-02-2013, 02:23 PM   #82
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Death, Black, Doom, Sludge, Viking, Grindcore and all the other weird crossover genres... hell I don't understand subsubgenres at allówhy would you take one aspect of what others have done before you, and then repeat it ad infinitum? You should be striving for variety, not monotony.


I feel like you put something in maybe Cantonese through Google Translate and got something that doesn't mean what you thought it means. If that is what you meant to say, then what are you even talking about? Do you even know what a "subsubgenre" even is? And subsubgenre is not a word. "Microgenre" is the term you're looking for. I should also mention that all of those that you mentioned are subgenres and not microgenres. You also don't seem to know what a crossover genre is either.

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Old 02-02-2013, 02:26 PM   #83
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The band Cake and bands like them. Just doesn't make sense to me
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Old 02-02-2013, 02:27 PM   #84
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Indie along the lines of kaiser chiefs and stuff.
Thrash metal, as in metallica and such.

They just don't appeal to me at all, but I'm pretty open to attempts to change my mind.

Free jazz seems to be getting quite a beating in this thread, but I quite enjoy it actually. I like some atonal music as well, providing it has something else going for it besides melody. I'm not really a big fan of contemporary music/electroacoustic, but I'm exposed to a lot of it through work and my university and occasionally I hear something I like.
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Old 02-02-2013, 02:41 PM   #85
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seriously...how can anyone like Dylan's over Hendrix? Dylan's musicianship is so amateur and awful....
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Old 02-02-2013, 02:50 PM   #86
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Bob Dylan version

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seriously...how can anyone like Dylan's over Hendrix? Dylan's musicianship is so amateur and awful....

You are still going off about that. I do agree though for me Bob Dylan is about lyrics not about the music. Though I do have a few Dylan albums that I don't mind listening to. All in all timeless writier but a horrid musician.
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Old 02-02-2013, 02:59 PM   #87
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Old 02-02-2013, 03:05 PM   #88
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Bob Dylan version

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seriously...how can anyone like Dylan's over Hendrix? Dylan's musicianship is so amateur and awful....
I don't know where you're getting the idea that Dylan was ever recognized as a musician. His primary recognition was always his lyrical value. I don't think I've ever heard anyone referr to Dylan as a good musician (not to mention, every cover of Dylan is better than his original).

Same deal with Cobain, except with him some people (out of their mind) actually think that he's a good musician. He isn't.
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Old 02-02-2013, 03:11 PM   #89
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Bob Dylan version

Jimi Hendrix version


seriously...how can anyone like Dylan's over Hendrix? Dylan's musicianship is so amateur and awful....


Because Jimi's cover screams "Hey guys, look at how great of a guitarist I think I am! Who cares about the meaning of the lyrics, watch me bend the same two notes over and over and play the same sloppy pentatonic run that I played in the last tune!"

The original says "Hey, I've got something important to say, so listen up. I'm gonna add a couple of simple chords in the background so that it will be easier to remember what I'm saying, but not to the point where it's overbearing and completely gets in the way of the lyrics, which are really the important thing to take away from this song."
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Old 02-02-2013, 03:15 PM   #90
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I don't not get genres/bands. I either like it or I don't, I can understand it perfectly fine.
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Old 02-02-2013, 03:16 PM   #91
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(For you younger lads, the old LPs would sometimes get a defective groove and they'd just repeat the same line over and over.... That's what Cage sounds like.

Steve Reich's stuff is good.

However, I hate John Cage's music. I can understand that his approach to music is pretty groundbreaking, but the end results are usually anything but...
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Old 02-02-2013, 04:08 PM   #92
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Because Jimi's cover screams "Hey guys, look at how great of a guitarist I think I am! Who cares about the meaning of the lyrics, watch me bend the same two notes over and over and play the same sloppy pentatonic run that I played in the last tune!"

The original says "Hey, I've got something important to say, so listen up. I'm gonna add a couple of simple chords in the background so that it will be easier to remember what I'm saying, but not to the point where it's overbearing and completely gets in the way of the lyrics, which are really the important thing to take away from this song."

Which would be fine if Dylan didn't sound like Popeye would on cocaine...

Also, Jimi's version makes it a good song; Dylan's is like...meh.

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Thrash metal, as in metallica and such.

There's a lot more to Thrash than Metallica. Personally, since you said you're open to attempts to change your mind, I would check out one of the albums by Kreator. I personally really like "Hordes of Chaos", but I wouldn't say that album is their best work. Check with the Metal forum guys, if you want. Ask in the Kreator thread (pretty sure there is one).
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Old 02-02-2013, 04:11 PM   #93
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Because Jimi's cover screams "Hey guys, look at how great of a guitarist I think I am! Who cares about the meaning of the lyrics, watch me bend the same two notes over and over and play the same sloppy pentatonic run that I played in the last tune!"

The original says "Hey, I've got something important to say, so listen up. I'm gonna add a couple of simple chords in the background so that it will be easier to remember what I'm saying, but not to the point where it's overbearing and completely gets in the way of the lyrics, which are really the important thing to take away from this song."


Yeah, becoz Jimi saw Malmsteen and Buckethead shredding on youtube and he just copied them, I mean, hes so LAAAAAME dood!
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Old 02-02-2013, 04:14 PM   #94
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they have exactly 4 songs worth listening to. beyond those songs, it's clear that cake is actually the shittiest band in existence...

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Old 02-02-2013, 04:19 PM   #95
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Old 02-02-2013, 04:30 PM   #97
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Just tell me this about Converge. Am I supposed to be angry whilst listening? Because it kinda made sense when I was really pissed off but other than that I wasn't diggin it.
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Old 02-02-2013, 04:37 PM   #99
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Which would be fine if Dylan didn't sound like Popeye would on cocaine...


I mean, I don't really like Popeye, but you still shouldn't make fun of his addiction.
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Bob Dylan version

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seriously...how can anyone like Dylan's over Hendrix? Dylan's musicianship is so amateur and awful....

that's a pretty subpar bob dylan song. good job, you read rolling stone and are aware that jimi hendrix covered a dylan song--but it's not really representative of him as an artist at all, let alone at his peak. so yr bad opinions can be excused by yr incidental ignorance i guess.
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