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Old 02-02-2013, 04:50 PM   #1
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I have a Pod HD500 going into a 15W Peavry Vypyr.

What is the best way to set my Vypyr to not color the tone?
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Old 02-02-2013, 05:30 PM   #2
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Unfortunately the vypyrs don't have an effects loop, because plugging into the return of an effects loop would have been the best way to go.

I would try just setting your amp up so that the EQ is relatively neutral (knobs at around noon). Set your amp on the cleanest tone possible with no effects and work from there.


Another option to consider is plugging the Pod into a stereo system (if its somewhat decent). I've had good luck doing that with my processors in the past. Not as punchy as a guitar speaker, but sounded pretty darn good.
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Old 02-02-2013, 05:48 PM   #3
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Not to devalue your purchase decision, but what was your reasoning behind buying a modeling pedal to go into a modeling amp?
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Old 02-02-2013, 05:54 PM   #4
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What you need to do is run your Pod into an Eleven rack processor, then into your Vypyr, then a DI out (or mic if you don't have an out) into your computer, run it through guitar rig, then out from your computer through a synthesizer with a vocoder, and then from the synth to a PA system. Thats the only way to get the tone you want.

Seriously, 1 effect processing amp wasn't enough?
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Old 02-02-2013, 06:13 PM   #5
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Do you want t use the vypyr as a clean amp and use the pod for effects? Or do you want all the tone to be in the pod?

If the latter, does the vypyr have some sort of aux in or cd/mp3 in?

If the former, just try to set it to a nice fenders clean or something wi no effects.

But like everyone is saying, you're not in the most practical gear situation haha.
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Old 02-02-2013, 06:33 PM   #6
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If the latter, does the vypyr have some sort of aux in or cd/mp3 in?
+1 try this.
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Old 02-02-2013, 07:01 PM   #7
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If you're going to be using the POD, I honestly recommend selling the Vypyr and getting a good, cheap transparent amp like a Peavey Bandit.

If you got the POD just for the FX... you should have waited until you got a different amp first. It's going to be extremely difficult getting them to cooperate together. models don't like to play nice with other models.
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If you're going to be using the POD, I honestly recommend selling the Vypyr and getting a good, cheap transparent amp like a Peavey Bandit.

Or an FRFR speaker; I think that would be more ideal.
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Do you want t use the vypyr as a clean amp and use the pod for effects? Or do you want all the tone to be in the pod?

If the latter, does the vypyr have some sort of aux in or cd/mp3 in?


I forgot about that. Yest the vypyr does have an aux in.


TS, get one of these 1/4in to 1/8in adapters:


Plug it into the output of your pod, then use a 1/8 inch male to male aux cable to plug into the vypyrs aux input.


That should cover your bases. If your gigging though, I would definitely recommend saving up for a new amp to go with the pod (like everyone has been saying). If you just jam in your room, this setup will do alright.
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Old 02-02-2013, 11:04 PM   #10
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I forgot about that. Yest the vypyr does have an aux in.


TS, get one of these 1/4in to 1/8in adapters:


Plug it into the output of your pod, then use a 1/8 inch male to male aux cable to plug into the vypyrs aux input.


That should cover your bases. If your gigging though, I would definitely recommend saving up for a new amp to go with the pod (like everyone has been saying). If you just jam in your room, this setup will do alright.



Tried this; it made my amp stop working

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Do you want t use the vypyr as a clean amp and use the pod for effects? Or do you want all the tone to be in the pod?

If the latter, does the vypyr have some sort of aux in or cd/mp3 in?

If the former, just try to set it to a nice fenders clean or something wi no effects.

But like everyone is saying, you're not in the most practical gear situation haha.


I wanted all the tone to come from the pod. I had the Vypyr, then bought the pod years later.


I mainly just want something that I can plug the pod into and not have to wear headphones to listen to it.
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Old 02-02-2013, 11:05 PM   #11
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Get a small FRFR speaker or a pair of studio monitors.
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Old 02-03-2013, 06:10 AM   #12
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Did you plug it into Aux input? It should work.

Guitar -> Pod -> Aux input of your amp. So you don't use amp's main input.

But the best way would be to get powered speakers.
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Old 02-03-2013, 10:18 AM   #13
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Did you plug it into Aux input? It should work.

Guitar -> Pod -> Aux input of your amp. So you don't use amp's main input.

But the best way would be to get powered speakers.



I did, and something got blown in the amp when I did it.


These are $50 at guitar center for president's day, but I'm not sure how I'd hook them up to the pod.

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Old 02-03-2013, 02:02 PM   #14
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Unless you're only going to be recording in your house and never plan on gigging or playing with other people, I wouldn't buy those. Like someone said, get rid of the vypyr and get a cheap tube amp. it only needs a clean channel if you're using the POD anyway.
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If you plan on playing with other people, you want an FRFR speaker because it doesn't color the tone at all and 100% of the tone comes from the POD, unlike the clean channel of a tube amp where it's MADE to color the sound more.
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If you plan on playing with other people, you want an FRFR speaker because it doesn't color the tone at all and 100% of the tone comes from the POD, unlike the clean channel of a tube amp where it's MADE to color the sound more.

Doesn't necessarily make it bad.

Some people love the sound of an FRFR system on a modeler, but it can make it sound very cold and less like a real amp. Playing it through a tube power section is going to liven up the tone more, but obviously will skew the model's tone a bit. Either can be a good choice.
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Old 02-03-2013, 03:27 PM   #17
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Yes, but I'm just going off the OP saying he doesn't want to color the tone.
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Old 02-03-2013, 03:32 PM   #18
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I can't imagine getting any sort of usable tone when using these two in tandem. I'd sell the Peavy vypyr and get you a nice little tube amp
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Or an FRFR speaker; I think that would be more ideal.


Also an alternative.

I only really recommended the Bandit because it can also function as a regular amp in a pinch, it's super cheap and it doesn't sound bad. FRFR is kind of limited in what it can do.
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Also an alternative.

I only really recommended the Bandit because it can also function as a regular amp in a pinch, it's super cheap and it doesn't sound bad. FRFR is kind of limited in what it can do.


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But yeah I think any small decent amp would be fine. And would work for just plugging straight in for certain occasions
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