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Old 02-02-2013, 05:53 PM   #1
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My Guitar goes out of tune as I play it

My Guitar goes out of tune as I play it. I will tune it back, and it will go out of tune again.

This happens regardless if I have new strings that I have stretched fully or not.

Its a problem with live gigs, since I will have to tune after each song or it will go out of tune during a song.

Worst part, I spent 3,000 on my guitar! It shouldnt be doing this! I never really had the problem until the past year too.

Its a paul reed smith custom 24.
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Old 02-02-2013, 05:58 PM   #2
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Sounds like a burr on the nut is a possibility. Just try touching up the string slot with some sandpaper, something around 400 grit(doesn't really matter as long as it gets the bur out).
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Old 02-02-2013, 06:19 PM   #4
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Does it have locking tuners?
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Old 02-02-2013, 06:46 PM   #5
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what type of bridge do you have?
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Old 02-02-2013, 07:03 PM   #6
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A PRS cu24 going out of tune? thats like swearing in the church. I would probably check the locking tuners. something is wrong here.
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Old 02-02-2013, 07:26 PM   #7
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Well if this guitar has locking tuners, which I'm sure it does, you don't string locking tuners the same as regular tuners. This could be the problem.
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Old 02-02-2013, 07:38 PM   #8
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Throw it away.
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Old 02-02-2013, 07:48 PM   #9
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Old 02-02-2013, 08:01 PM   #10
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it has locking tuners..which confuses me.......
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Old 02-02-2013, 08:04 PM   #11
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it has locking tuners..which confuses me.......


Are you stringing it as you would string conventional tuners?
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Old 02-02-2013, 08:06 PM   #12
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Old 02-02-2013, 08:08 PM   #13
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it has locking tuners..which confuses me.......

Dude you take my advise? Poor tuning stability doesn't necessarily mean that the tuner is at fault.
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Old 02-02-2013, 10:46 PM   #14
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Graphite on the nut works wonders. Just rub a pencil through the slots.
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Old 02-03-2013, 03:49 AM   #15
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Are you tightening the thumb screws enough on the tuners? I've heard once before of this and that ended up being the issue.
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^dont even bother. if he really wanted help, he would have found the time to post back with any type of info or updates....
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Old 02-05-2013, 10:54 AM   #17
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Are you tightening the thumb screws enough on the tuners? I've heard once before of this and that ended up being the issue.



tried it, and still goes out of tune, but not as BAD.

Someone here mentioned that you have to string locking tuners differenty? I don't understand why it should matter, esp if you have such high compressive force on the string at one point nothing after that point should matter.
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Old 02-05-2013, 12:17 PM   #18
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You string 'em differently because it's a different part that works differently. You don't stick F1 slick racing tyres on an off-road 4x4 car, do you?

The whole point of having locking tuners is that you don't need to worry about wrapping the string in such a way that it locks itself; the locking mechanism within the tuner does the locking for you. So you pull the string fairly tight, thread it through the tuner, lock it and tune to pitch; there should be less than one full wrap of string around the tuner. Usually just half a turn is all there should be. The less string you have wrapped around the tuner, the less the string can slip.

That said, most tuning problems with American PRS guitars seems to come down to the nut and bridge, because as nice as their hardware is, they're still using pretty standard nut materials and 6-screw design bridges.

Make sure the nut slots and bridge saddles are clear so the strings aren't snagging. Then take a good look at the bridge's movement, make sure that the bridge moves smoothly back and forth without raising up along the length of the screws.
If the nut slots or bridge saddles are worn and the strings are snagging there, replace 'em. If the bridge isn't moving against the screws smoothly, either somethign is shifted and it needs to be set up properly, or the bridge plate may be suffering a little wear and you need to replace that.
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Old 02-05-2013, 01:35 PM   #19
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yes lube all string contact points,

but i feel like he's maybe wrapping around the tuners,
and might have an unbalanced bridge.

not sure because of his vague answers.
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Old 02-05-2013, 02:44 PM   #20
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tried it, and still goes out of tune, but not as BAD.

Someone here mentioned that you have to string locking tuners differenty? I don't understand why it should matter, esp if you have such high compressive force on the string at one point nothing after that point should matter.


Not sure what bridge you have or even if its a tremelo, it shouldn't make much difference with a stop tail but if you got a trem system on there it's not gonna stay in tune for 5 minutes.
With locking tuners the max you should wind them should be 1.5 times at the most. Try restringing this way and see how much difference it makes first. I'm not that fermiliar with PRS guitars but if that doesn't work try the other stuff Mr Fibble said about, they're your other probable causes.

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