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Old 02-03-2013, 06:16 PM   #1
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Tight bass question

I'm forever trying to get a tighter bass sound in my tone, and lust after an incredibly tight low end. But what actually is it that makes a bass sound tight, or muddy? This might be a really difficult question to answer, because I can't think why myself. I understand that different speakers/amps/pickups etc produce different frequencies and some lead to a muddier or more tighter sounding low end, but exactly what makes up this sound? Would it be the frequencies themselves?

Sorry if this seems a really silly question or pointless, I just feel I could figure out how to get the tone I'm after if I were to understand what produced it. Cheers!
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Old 02-03-2013, 06:24 PM   #2
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It is indeed the frequencies...

I could help more if I knew excatly what gear you are running.

Generally, I think the first place to start would be with an EQ pedal. I recommend the 10-band by MXR. If youre still having troubles, I would then try a new speaker, or cab....

Like I said, it would help more if we knew what your using gear wise.
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Old 02-03-2013, 06:39 PM   #3
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EQ, amp itself, strings can play a part, SPEAKERS play a large part...and of course the EQ and quality of your effects as well.

pickups do as well. its all one chain.

if i had to say the big 2, its amp and speakers.
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Old 02-03-2013, 06:41 PM   #4
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The amp has the largest impact.

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Old 02-03-2013, 07:10 PM   #5
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I'm using a Peavey Bandit 112 Transtube. It has the Blue Marvel Classic 8 ohm speaker in it. I do run an MXR 10 band eq as well and found reducing 250Hz by about 10dB tightened it up a lot, as well as boosting the 64dB by about 10dB. I do plan on getting a new amp sometime this year, though no immediate plans are in place, I know it's not the best amp, but it's better than the Laney LX and boss metalzone setup I had before.

It's not so much I desire to get the tightest sound possible out of this amp and want a new one so quickly, but more that I want to understand what it is, which frequencies it is, that make the low end sound tighter on some amps/speakers.
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Old 02-03-2013, 07:37 PM   #6
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I can't tell you off hand what frequencie it is that controls the most bass responce, besides telling you that its the lower once ( first 4 or so bands on the left side of the pedal)

I owned a bandit once, its a very thin amp. If you're running the EQ with it properly, and its still sounding too thin for you, I don't know what else to say, besides get a new amp??

The bandits are okay as beginner amps, but you will never get a great, tight tone out of it.
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Talk about polishing a turd.... Kidding.

Have you tried a boost up front like a TS9 to tighten the bass up?
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For tighter bass drop the low frequencies and boost the low mids slightly I always do this for recordings, but as stated above, the bandit is a beginner amp and is probably just not capable of the sound you're after.
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Guys, I'm aware my amp isn't best suited to the tones I'm after. For the most part, I'm unhappy with my amp other than getting okay practice level sounds. I just want to know exactly how amps do get that tight low end, not so much how to do it with my own set up.

I could go and test loads of amps and find the perfect one (have played a 6505+ which is probably the go to amp for tight low end without spending an utter fortune), but I also like to produce music and knowing frequencies is of great interest to me.
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