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View Poll Results: Is retro/vintage holding music back?
Yeah, we need to move on 6 11.11%
Meh, you're a **** 13 24.07%
Nah, nothing wrong with the classics 35 64.81%
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Old 02-03-2013, 06:58 PM   #1
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So I'm in the middle of reading Simon Reynolds - 'Retromania', pretty good book but mostly about genres that can only rehash hallmarks/stereotypes.

For example rock bands are still using guitars that were designed in the 50's and while they've tried to make changes and bring out new designs, people seem content to stick to a handful of designs that have always been popular. Metals bands as well still use guitars that haven't advanced much from the superstrats of the 80's. There's even amps and effects pedals that pride themselves on a 'vintage' sound.

So do you think music suffers from being stuck in the past? Or do these technologies survive because they're just really good?
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Old 02-03-2013, 07:01 PM   #2
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Great thread, also, I want to get in before the thread /close.
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Old 02-03-2013, 07:03 PM   #4
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Old 02-03-2013, 07:04 PM   #5
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I'd post this.

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Old 02-03-2013, 07:07 PM   #6
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Reading the responses, I have no idea what this thread is supposed to be about.
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Old 02-03-2013, 07:12 PM   #7
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Nah, nothing wrong with the classics

I'm just going to assume this should be in the music section, glancing at the OP seeing some blah-dee blah-dee bloom about 50s, guitar and 80s.
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Old 02-03-2013, 07:50 PM   #8
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Old 02-03-2013, 07:53 PM   #9
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It's just something that occurs with the natural progression of music. Kinda like how some of Mozart's stuff like his requiem could get a little Bach-ish at times.
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Old 02-03-2013, 08:00 PM   #10
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It's just something that occurs with the natural progression of music. Kinda like how some of Mozart's stuff like his requiem could get a little Bach-ish at times.

lol he couldn't handel it
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Old 02-03-2013, 09:06 PM   #11
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Well, let me put it this way. Are there improvements to music? Yes, but they're more things like how it's easier than ever to record on your computer than ever before. As far as guitars & such...I would say that there definitely have been improvements in amps, pedals, & guitar pickups. It seems that we like a lot of the old aesthetics is all.
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Old 02-03-2013, 09:24 PM   #12
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But metal bands do use new guitar designs.

They just all look like shit and have 3000 pointy bits.
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Old 02-03-2013, 09:31 PM   #13
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No. I can use a retro sounding amplifier and I can also use an Axe Fx. I can use an ADA Flanger along with a Line 6 Flanger. Music would suffer if I didn't have the option.

I was hoping this thread would be about retro stuff we like. I like retro futuristic art.

Who wants to talk about retro futuristic art?
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Old 02-03-2013, 09:37 PM   #14
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But metal bands do use new guitar designs.

They just all look like shit and have 3000 pointy bits.


Thats what I was gonna post

The fact is that it is still a guitar. Doesn't really matter whether its a Les Paul style or a Razorback. You can still play the same things on both. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
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No. I can use a retro sounding amplifier and I can also use an Axe Fx. I can use an ADA Flanger along with a Line 6 Flanger. Music would suffer if I didn't have the option.

I was hoping this thread would be about retro stuff we like. I like retro futuristic art.

Who wants to talk about retro futuristic art?


I do. Do 80's count as retro? In that case, Somewhere in time.
Otherwise, all them space ship-y things from the 60's.Buses, trains, everything.
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People have been trying to break the rules ever since there were rules.
If there was a better way to do it, we would be doing it that way.

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So do you think music suffers from being stuck in the past? Or do these technologies survive because they're just really good?

How have you extrapolated from guitars to all of music?

Music is more experimental and futuristic than ever

EDIT: I really cannot even begin to fathom how you've looked at music today and gone "Yeah man, look how it's all stuck in the past" you dolt
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Nothing wrong with enjoying the classics out using older style instruments and such.
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Old 02-03-2013, 10:56 PM   #19
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Every artistic movement goes through three phases - Fuck the rules. Let's invent new rules. Actually, let's just stick to these new rules.
That process is repeated. It's analogy is something like baroque - romantic - classical and it was written by some dude I learnt about last year

Anyway, people still play pianos and they were invented a while ago, but nobody's pointing at blues pianists claiming they're all nostalgic about Mozart.

Also I think part of the reason vintage amps and effects are popular (aside from the reason retro anything exists, and fuck your tattoos) is because high end music production got ahead of itself and compressed tracks, over gated snares and punched recordings. Peeps want to sound like what music sounded like when it was faithfully recorded.
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Eh, I think there's a certain resistance to new ideas among musicians, which is what causes most innovative new gear to not sell at all. And I've noticed a lot of said musicians have this weird pride about it. You know, the "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" mentality, only they're smug about it. Like, they're proud of the fact that they don't use anything new, and boast about it.

This is largely something that guitarists have a problem with, though. And to a slightly lesser extent synthesists (most keyboardists don't really have the whole analog fetish thing going on).

Like, I've noticed bassists really aren't like that at all. They embraced solid-state amps, ergonomic instrument designs, tons of active onboard electronics, etc.

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