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Old 02-04-2013, 05:39 PM   #21
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I've been looking at Distortion pedals recently. My amp is satisfactory, I just want something a bit different for when I feel like I need it.

The problem is that the usual options tend to be a teeny bit pants. Boss and Digitech make decent enough pedals elsewhere but I'm yet to hear a full on distortion pedal in their current range that I like. The metal muff is 'meh' and other than that, the common names that are thrown about are going for more than 100.

I've found a few pedals that I actually like. The Mesa pedal (can't remember which one is the gainiest atm), Wampler Triple Wreck, Suhr Riot and Okko Dominator are all pedals that I like, but there's a common issue. They're all closer to 200 than 100. During my searches I came across some schematics for the Wampler, okko and suhr and while they're beyond my skill atm, they're not ridiculously complex.

So I've bought a simple fizz kit so I can get a bit of practice and then I'll be attempting one of the above if I feel up to it.

Has anyone else got recommendations for high gain distortion pedals for me to check out?

I got the Boss ST-2 Power Stack and I think it is freaking excellent for most styles. Back when I was covering songs and was using strictly the clean channel, this pedal gave me a lot of dirt for the heavier songs. It doesn't sound like a tin can either, unlike some Boss distortion pedals...
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Old 02-04-2013, 08:37 PM   #22
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@lemoninfluence I'd look at getting some kind of rat, a boss hm-2, a used Jekyll and Hyde or a joyo amp sim. If you can stretch the extra ten buck the barber dirty bomb is pretty solid as well. Go watch some videos and check back with us. If your running a solid state its hard to beat a j+h in my experience.
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Old 02-04-2013, 08:49 PM   #23
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you are all wrong.

distortion pedals don't suck. metal sucks.
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Old 02-04-2013, 10:56 PM   #24
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you are all wrong.

distortion pedals don't suck. metal sucks.

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I have a Digitech Grunge distortion pedal. It's awful. Much prefer the build in overdrive in my BOSS PW-10 wah.

I liked my old one. it was fun.
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Old 02-05-2013, 12:06 AM   #25
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distortion pedals don't suck. metal sucks.

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Old 02-05-2013, 01:37 AM   #26
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Kurt Cobaine used a Rat and a DS-1. I read an interview with the Dethklok guy and he primarily uses dirt pedals through a clean Marshall or Fender. Jimi Hendrix used a fuzzface.
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Old 02-05-2013, 04:04 AM   #27
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distortion pedals don't suck. metal sucks.


Heavy Metal is the BEST MUSIC EVER MADE!!!!!
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Old 02-05-2013, 04:08 AM   #28
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What do you thing about a MXR Distortion+ pedal with Laney LX-35R (Solid state)? I don't have enough money to buy a tube amplifier, I play 80's Metal... Thanks!
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Old 02-05-2013, 05:04 AM   #29
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Can you be more specific on 80s metal? I watched a few videos its pretty good for Randy Rhodes type stuff in some videos I watched. I wouldn't go much heavier then that tbh with that pedal it starts sounding muddy. So budget? Location? Willing to go used?
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Old 02-05-2013, 05:55 AM   #30
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I use to play Iron Maiden, Randy Rhoads, Manowar, Accept, Helloween and UFO. Ι have a budget of 300 euros, for amp and pedal. My guitar is a Dean Black Bolt.
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Old 02-05-2013, 05:58 AM   #31
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Can you be more specific on 80s metal? I watched a few videos its pretty good for Randy Rhodes type stuff in some videos I watched. I wouldn't go much heavier then that tbh with that pedal it starts sounding muddy. So budget? Location? Willing to go used?


I live in Greece and I don't trust used eguipment. I mostly prefer to play using pinch harmonics.
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Old 02-05-2013, 06:07 AM   #32
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Id give it a look in person and bring your amp if possible because if you like it in a video it may not be the best pairing for your amp. It should work well for you for what you have listed because it is what many bands of that era did because high gain amps weren't readily availible at that point in history. The bigger question is do you want the normal or script logo. There is a slight difference between the two but I don't know if your willing to pay double for it or not.
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I prefer the normal, and it's easier for me to find it! I am always anxious about if I can achieve the tone I like with a solid state amp, because most of the artists I like had Marshall Plexi or JCM800. I'd love to have a Laney Ironheart, but it's very costly and I am not allowed to play loud enough.
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Old 02-05-2013, 06:41 AM   #34
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I prefer the normal, and it's easier for me to find it! I am always anxious about if I can achieve the tone I like with a solid state amp, because most of the artists I like had Marshall Plexi or JCM800. I'd love to have a Laney Ironheart, but it's very costly and I am not allowed to play loud enough.

You don't need to play it loud. Though I'm not sure how loud is loud for you/your parents/neighbors/whatever (I have my Laney VC30 tube amp at 1 and it sounds good).

But yeah, Randy used Distortion +.

Are you going to buy both amp and the pedal? Maybe go and try both amp and the pedal at the same time in a music store. Try it through different amps in your price range.
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Old 02-05-2013, 06:50 AM   #35
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You don't need to play it loud. Though I'm not sure how loud is loud for you/your parents/neighbors/whatever (I have my Laney VC30 tube amp at 1 and it sounds good).

But yeah, Randy used Distortion +.

Are you going to buy both amp and the pedal? Maybe go and try both amp and the pedal at the same time in a music store. Try it through different amps in your price range.


Yeah, I'm going to buy them both! Laney VC30 is a good option....very good option...but it costs 570 euros.... Do you thing it's worth waiting and saving money for a VC30;
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Old 02-05-2013, 06:52 AM   #36
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I play on 2 or 3 with a Line 6 Spider IV
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Old 02-05-2013, 06:55 AM   #37
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Yeah, I'm going to buy them both! Laney VC30 is a good option....very good option...but it costs 570 euros.... Do you thing it's worth waiting and saving money for a VC30;

Well, I got mine used for 280. It sounds good IMO. It might not have enough gain for heavier genres and you might need an OD to boost it. I don't have an OD because I'm happy with how it sounds without pedals. And I don't really need that high gain sounds.

I would go and try different amps in a music store. Try them with and without distortion pedal and see which of them sounds the best.

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OK, you need a new amp.
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Old 02-05-2013, 07:01 AM   #38
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I love the British tone many tube amps have, but I'm thinking of solid state because of their reliability and because they are cheap. I will try some amplifiers when I have the change. But many people told me that if I use an OD or a distortion pedal with a solid state amp it will be very stupid.
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Old 02-05-2013, 07:11 AM   #39
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And I want to thank you for your help. I don't know people who are familiar with the guitar, and I have not anyone to talk about it. Most of the people I know don't listen to Heavy Metal and they can't help me. Thank you very much!
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OK, you need a new amp.


Of course I need a new amp! I love analog circuitry, like tube or solid state amps, and I hate modelling technology, when it comes to sound (except recording)
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