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Old 02-05-2013, 10:30 AM   #1
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Being a music teacher in a school [UK]

As in, an actual teacher. Not someone who gives private lessons at the school.

Just a little something I'm curious about, as I'm weighing up basically every way to make a living from music.

Even though I despised school and it was a really shitty time, music classes were awesome because the teachers were great. It wasn't perfect, but really got me motivated and gave me the opportunity to perform at some school stuff.

Teacher's pay isn't great, but it is a steady income that's enough to live off. Plus there's teacher training and I probably don't have the relevant qualifications.

What do you guys think?
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Old 02-05-2013, 10:36 AM   #2
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Old 02-05-2013, 10:36 AM   #3
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Old 02-05-2013, 10:37 AM   #4
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Please, for the sake of all things holy, only become a teacher if you have a passion for it and don't want to do anything else. DO NOT become a teacher as a fall back. There are far too many bad teachers out there that don't give a shit about what they're doing.
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Old 02-05-2013, 10:38 AM   #5
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Both of my parents are teachers (not music teachers though). They advised me never to try it. It's not that the job itself is bad, they say it's because the constant lesson planning takes up so much of your free time. It's often an aspect that prospective teachers forget about.

However, I have a friend who has recently started giving private music lessons, and he thinks it's a blast. He makes pretty good money out of it too.

But, if you are really passionate about teaching, I say give it a go. Schools always need teachers who love their subject.
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Old 02-05-2013, 10:38 AM   #6
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All my music teachers were great.

Fuck you Todd, you really hit me where it hurts.
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Old 02-05-2013, 10:39 AM   #7
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All my music teachers were great.

Fuck you Todd, you really hit me where it hurts.

I think he was just tryna give me shit
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Old 02-05-2013, 10:44 AM   #8
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Both of my parents are teachers (not music teachers though). They advised me never to try it. It's not that the job itself is bad, they say it's because the constant lesson planning takes up so much of your free time. It's often an aspect that prospective teachers forget about.

However, I have a friend who has recently started giving private music lessons, and he thinks it's a blast. He makes pretty good money out of it too.

But, if you are really passionate about teaching, I say give it a go. Schools always need teachers who love their subject.


+10,000

My mom's a teacher and can not stand the amount of planning and paperwork. She gets paid for a 32 hour week but usually ends up working 50 hour weeks to keep on track of it. It's awful.

Every teacher I have talked to has said the same thing.
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Old 02-05-2013, 11:23 AM   #9
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Every teacher I've spoken to has been very encouraging as long as you're willing to give up some free time for planning. Keep in mind though that lesson plans can be re-hashed year on year as you teach the same syllabus, meaning that once your a few years in you're just tweaking lessons rather than starting up whole new ideas.

I just want to teach music to kids though, I really don't mind about the other stuff. After helping out in lessons as a 6th former and running an outreach project which went in to primary schools to teach music stuff to little kids I don't see what else I'd rather do with my life.
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Old 02-05-2013, 11:43 AM   #10
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They don't really hire "professors" here in Canada in Music Universities. The teachers get old, and its often their assistant teachers, the students in either music research or performance in Master or Doctorate studies who if they are lucky get to teach at least one course in the faculty.


Do you have a music degree? Im not sure you can get any stable music teacher job ( as in actual teacher, no private lessons - aim to join the school syndicate if youre looking for stability ) without one.
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Old 02-05-2013, 12:25 PM   #11
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I have a B-tec...

I may be studying for a Degree, but not from a 'proper' university. It's kind of the equivalent to something like GIT in the States.
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Old 02-05-2013, 12:27 PM   #12
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Old 02-05-2013, 12:56 PM   #13
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I have a B-tec...

I may be studying for a Degree, but not from a 'proper' university. It's kind of the equivalent to something like GIT in the States.

Although I'm not sure of every way you can go about it, a related degree plus a PGCE seems to be the easiest way.
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Old 02-05-2013, 03:52 PM   #14
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Although I'm not sure of every way you can go about it, a related degree plus a PGCE seems to be the easiest way.



This.

I'm on this path now. It's quite tough though, so much work.
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I posted some advice about this yesterday somewhere.
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Old 02-05-2013, 04:00 PM   #16
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Old 02-05-2013, 04:05 PM   #17
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I'd say the biggest benefit is that you'll have loads of free time to figure out what you really want to do because it's obvious you want to be a professional musician.
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Old 02-05-2013, 04:10 PM   #18
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I know a guy who was a Music Teacher in Scotland. He quit after a couple years because a student threw a chair at him. However, I'm not surprised, this guy is a bit of a weirdo, and not many people like him.

That being said, be cool to people, and you should probably do well.
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Both of my parents are teachers (not music teachers though). They advised me never to try it. It's not that the job itself is bad, they say it's because the constant lesson planning takes up so much of your free time. It's often an aspect that prospective teachers forget about.


This this this. My cousin and her boyfriend are both teachers, they often work all through the weekend and late into the night planning lessons. Also having worked at a training company and done the initial teaching qualification I can tell you planning a 30 minute lesson is a lot of hard work.
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Don't do it. GF's mother is a music teacher and she wouldn't recommend it to any one.

Also http://www.telegraph.co.uk/educatio...in-schools.html

Ebacc doesn't exactly bode well for music apparently.
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