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Old 02-05-2013, 09:39 PM   #1
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Mid-High Ranged Active Speaker for use as PA

Hi there GG&A!

I was hoping for some PA recommendations as I don't have much experience in this specific matter...

Looking for a PA application for use with a music project, sounds I'm hoping to put in and get out of it include: Acoustic guitar, vocals, harmonica, keyboard/synth, drum/bass. Audience would be houses and small bars, so not TOO loud... I'm thinking 300w max would be more than enough.

I currently have a mixer (w/ phantom powered inputs, etc.) and a bass amp (4x10 @ 350w) that I have used previously as a PA in tandem with what I believe (borrowed it) was an older version of the Fender Passport. I really dug that setup but I think I really only need one or two speakers with nice mid-high end response, as the 4x10 bass amp is giving me enough low end.

So, I was hoping for a rec for some (powered) speaker(s) that you think would fill out my sound in the high end. Budget is <$1000 but I don't really think I need to spend much more than 5 or 6 hundred on one or two speakers. In Ontario, Canada and willing to buy new or used.

Any recs? I have just started looking but this Kustom seems kind of along the right train of though, though 50w @8ohm is not enough for me at all.

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/pro-...sonal-pa-system

Would probably dig something like one or two of these as well, if it were powered that is:

http://www.long-mcquade.com/product..._PA_Speaker.htm

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mackie-SRM4...=item3a7df558e6

Thanks in advance!
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Old 02-05-2013, 09:45 PM   #2
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They have Mackie Thump TH15a powered 1x15s for $239 each at www.americanmusical.com

It is thie weekly big deal. They are B-stock, but have factory warantys
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Old 02-05-2013, 09:49 PM   #3
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They have Mackie Thump TH15a powered 1x15s for $239 each at www.americanmusical.com

It is thie weekly big deal. They are B-stock, but have factory warantys


Wow those look pretty incredible... I have never heard Mackie's "Thump" line; any feedback on them?

Also, do you know when the sale ends?

Thanks again.
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The sale ends on sat night at mid night EST.

I havent heard the thump series, but I bet they are pretty good, Mackie makes nice equipment.
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Old 02-05-2013, 10:26 PM   #5
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Greg Mackie created the Tapco company first, and sold the company to Electrovoice, and he started the Mackie company. Years later, he bought the name back and branded all the entry level mackie stuff with the name Tapco. The Mackie thump is the new version of the Tapco Thump.

I have a pair of 15's, and they almost never get used now, but I think you would be just fine with those to start with. They're fairly decent for the price, especially considering they are the bottom of the barrel for mackie's powered speaker offerings.
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Greg Mackie created the Tapco company first, and sold the company to Electrovoice, and he started the Mackie company. Years later, he bought the name back and branded all the entry level mackie stuff with the name Tapco. The Mackie thump is the new version of the Tapco Thump.

I have a pair of 15's, and they almost never get used now, but I think you would be just fine with those to start with. They're fairly decent for the price, especially considering they are the bottom of the barrel for mackie's powered speaker offerings.



Not really selling me on these lol...
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Not really selling me on these lol...


a cheap mackie will most likely be better than say... my phonic 200 watt PA. at the very least thump is just as good as any other cheap brand.

i like yamaha PA stuff. i bet they have some solid powered speakers.
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Not really selling me on these lol...


I'm not selling them to you. I'm giving you the facts. Any pair of powered speakers for less than $600 for both is going to be approximately the same quality and sound.
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I'm not selling them to you. I'm giving you the facts. Any pair of powered speakers for less than $600 for both is going to be approximately the same quality and sound.



Sounds like you misunderstood me, I just meant you are making me question those speakers as something I would want... as in, I'd rather drop some more money than buy something shit that I'll regret in a year.

I've been happy with Mackies I have heard, but like I said I have still never heard the thump line and was just going off other's word.

Mostly Yorkvilles in my area and just higher end Mackies TBH.

Thanks for the input.
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Sounds like you misunderstood me, I just meant you are making me question those speakers as something I would want... as in, I'd rather drop some more money than buy something shit that I'll regret in a year.

I've been happy with Mackies I have heard, but like I said I have still never heard the thump line and was just going off other's word.

Mostly Yorkvilles in my area and just higher end Mackies TBH.

Thanks for the input.

I understood you just fine.

What I am saying is that any pair of powered speakers for $300 each is something you will wish you had bought the next level up later on. Don't get me wrong, many people can make do, but speakers in that range were never particularly good for live vocals. Program material maybe, but never hit the minimum for me with even just vocals only. So mic'ing up instruments fould just make it worse.

It's like $99 strat copies. SX, Crate, Squier, etc. I would probably take the Squier over the others, but it's not like it's a big difference.

You had noted you were looking at a SRM450, that's a proven prosumer powered speaker that will give you many years of service.
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I understood you just fine.

What I am saying is that any pair of powered speakers for $300 each is something you will wish you had bought the next level up later on. Don't get me wrong, many people can make do, but speakers in that range were never particularly good for live vocals. Program material maybe, but never hit the minimum for me with even just vocals only. So mic'ing up instruments fould just make it worse.

It's like $99 strat copies. SX, Crate, Squier, etc. I would probably take the Squier over the others, but it's not like it's a big difference.

You had noted you were looking at a SRM450, that's a proven prosumer powered speaker that will give you many years of service.


Thanks, I agree.
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Digging these... found two used for $950...

http://www.long-mcquade.com/product..._PA_Speaker.htm
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I highly sugest you go with a 1x15 at least, 12"s just cant handle the lower frequencys that a 15 can.
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I highly sugest you go with a 1x15 at least, 12"s just cant handle the lower frequencys that a 15 can.


Not necessarily. There are lots of bass cabinets that feature 10" and 12" speakers. The design of the speaker is another factor of how well low end is handled, not just the size. If you plan to run guitar into these, 15" is not necessarily better, as the crossover on 15" speaker cabs are right in the middle of the guitar and vocal range. The larger the driver, the more emphasis on lowend, that is correct, however, mid to highrange frequencies suffer as well.

I would recommend not running bass (or very little) into the mains if you have no subs, that would eat up a lot of headroom.
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