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Old 02-07-2013, 06:21 PM   #1
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Peavey Windsor Head: A Question....

I like tube breakup and don't use pedals. I have a chance to snag a Windsor head for a really good price. How loud would I need to be before I got some natural-sounding dirtiness?

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Old 02-07-2013, 06:26 PM   #2
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The 100 watt head? loud enough where you'll likely piss off the inhabitants of your house and probably some neighbors.
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Old 02-07-2013, 06:56 PM   #4
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To get power tube saturation you'll need to be at at least 5 or 6 which is extremely loud, however its a great amp and can be modded really easily so buy it anyways. I love mine!
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Old 02-07-2013, 07:35 PM   #5
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So, that 5-6 is going to be louder than drummer-band volumes, right?
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Old 02-07-2013, 08:28 PM   #6
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To get power tube saturation you'll need to be at at least 5 or 6 which is extremely loud, however its a great amp and can be modded really easily so buy it anyways. I love mine!


I really dig the look of the Windsor and I was considering buy one since they're really cheap here, but the reviews I read aren't exactly inviting, I keep reading that it's really trebley and very bass-lacking; is it true ?
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Old 02-07-2013, 08:41 PM   #7
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So, that 5-6 is going to be louder than drummer-band volumes, right?

Well That depends on speaker sensitivity, as well as the amp wattage. Different speakers will have different levels of sensitivity which will affect volume, as well as how much wattage you put through them. however power tube saturation really doesn't come until loud levels, wattage doesn't dictate volume entirely, if I recall you need about 10x the wattage to get 2x the volume. Either way I can get my 60 Watt combo well above a drummer without breaking a sweat.
I hear great things about the peavey windsors and I almost bought one for myself. I wouldn't really let wattage dictate my purchases too much, that's what master volumes are for, I generally go for higher wattage amps but I wouldn't really say it's a necessity.
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Old 02-07-2013, 10:51 PM   #8
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Well, I have some ceramic JBLs (very loud) and, once I sell two off to get some cash, I'm going to try the adjustable Mavericks. Regarding any excess treblyness, I guess I can turn down the treble some.

I listened to some Youtube demos and it did sound cool (kinda dirty and Marshally) but one can't really tell for sure when it comes to online video sound quality.
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Old 02-07-2013, 10:55 PM   #9
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I really dig the look of the Windsor and I was considering buy one since they're really cheap here, but the reviews I read aren't exactly inviting, I keep reading that it's really trebley and very bass-lacking; is it true ?

I know the Windsor studio is lacking bass, but I don't know about the head
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I know the Windsor studio is lacking bass, but I don't know about the head

Well if I recall correctly, the peavey windsor uses EL34's. I heard the similar things about my JCM 900 so when I re-tubed I got a set of E34L's which offer more low end, or at least that's what it says on the tubedepot website. Can't argue, I most definitely am hearing a tight low end.

http://tubedepot.com/jj-e34l.html
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Old 02-07-2013, 11:04 PM   #11
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I think the idea that the Windsor has no bass has more to do with the Peavey cabs than the head. I used one for a couple of years with an open back 2x12 with Celestion G12T100s, and it had more than enough bass for a guitar amp. It's basically a cheap JCM800 with maybe a slightly hotter preamp section. It also doesn't have much headroom at all, even with the preamp gain backed off, it will break up fairly early for a 100w head. It may not be the most versatile, but if what it does works for you, it's a hell of an amp for the price. I think it's easily among the best amps in it's price range if you're looking for a British voiced amp for any kind of rock/blues/classic rock tones.
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Old 02-07-2013, 11:37 PM   #12
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I'm not worried about versatility because I have none at all. I only do basic rock and roll, kinda like Link Wray meets Steve Jones, sorta. I just thought it would be cool to have an EL34 head in addition to my Twin, you know, covering both ends of the spectrum.

Peavey did tell me that one can't yank a pair of tubes like I did with the Twin; the Windsor's power tubes are in series. Thus, I do have some concern about the level of volume necessary to get that nice sound.
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I'm not worried about versatility because I have none at all. I only do basic rock and roll, kinda like Link Wray meets Steve Jones, sorta. I just thought it would be cool to have an EL34 head in addition to my Twin, you know, covering both ends of the spectrum.

Peavey did tell me that one can't yank a pair of tubes like I did with the Twin; the Windsor's power tubes are in series. Thus, I do have some concern about the level of volume necessary to get that nice sound.

Why yank tubes? The volume difference really won't be all that great between 50 and 100 watts. Personally I'd still get a set of JJ E34L in an amp that is known to be a little lacking in the bass subsection, just to offset it a tad.
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Old 02-08-2013, 05:48 AM   #14
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The tube yanking helped a bit with the Twin so it was my first question with the Peavey.
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Old 02-08-2013, 12:53 PM   #15
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Power tube breakup or preamp tube breakup? If the former, loud. If the latter, bedroom levels.
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Power tube breakup or preamp tube breakup? If the former, loud. If the latter, bedroom levels.

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I had one of these for a while and my complaint was that it wouldn't stay clean even at bedroom levels.
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