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Old 02-09-2013, 05:29 PM   #1
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Is a Floyd Rose bridge suppose to dive when bending?

When I bend a string on my guitar, the bridge slowly dives and the other strings detunes. The strings and bridge, of course, goes back to normal when released. This makes unison bending sound really wierd and out of tune.

If this normal? I couldn't find anything by searching.
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Old 02-09-2013, 05:51 PM   #2
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This is one of the one disadvantages of a floyd rose sadly.

When you do dual string bend, commonly 15(g)/14(b) you'll suffer quite a bit
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Old 02-09-2013, 06:01 PM   #3
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This is one of the one disadvantages of a floyd rose sadly.

When you do dual string bend, commonly 15(g)/14(b) you'll suffer quite a bit

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Old 02-09-2013, 06:31 PM   #4
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Eventually you learn how to do bends with the Floyd itself. >.>
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Old 02-09-2013, 06:50 PM   #5
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If it really bothers you just get a tremol-no. Although this will lock your floyd from being able to move. I ended up doing this on all my floyd guitar because I rarely used the bar. Now I get sweet tuning stability
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Old 02-09-2013, 06:59 PM   #6
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This is one of the one disadvantages of a floyd rose sadly.

When you do dual string bend, commonly 15(g)/14(b) you'll suffer quite a bit


Really? I've never noticed that happening too me
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Old 02-09-2013, 07:08 PM   #7
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It's just physics so yes. You're increasing string tension by bending so the bridge will dive as far as you bend.
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Old 02-09-2013, 07:10 PM   #8
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Really? I've never noticed that happening too me


I believe it happens on all floating trems, take a good listen you'll hear it. Tune it with a really good accurate tuner, do the bend a few times and look at the string that doesn't bend when doing dual bends, it will go slightly out. Disadvantages of Floyds, bro
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Old 02-09-2013, 07:15 PM   #9
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Yup. Just part of having a floating bridge. Increase the string tension and it will pull against the springs. A tremol-no will let you lock it in place, or something like an ESP arming adjuster will help minimize movement and flutter.
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Old 02-09-2013, 07:25 PM   #10
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yeah thats normal youll get used to bending with the bar for bends like that it helps
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Old 02-09-2013, 07:51 PM   #11
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There is really no way to do unison bends on a tremolo system that rests on springs. The same is true for a vintage tremolo (unless it is pulled down flat to the body and so stiff that it won't move, which mine isn't).

Either you accept it, or you go for another guitar/lock the trem down. There's lot of other cool stuff you can do with the trem though.
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Old 02-09-2013, 07:56 PM   #12
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Yup. Just part of having a floating bridge.


+1- it's not just floyds that do that, strat trems and wilkinsons and the like do it too if set to float.
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Old 02-09-2013, 08:01 PM   #13
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Yup. Just part of having a floating bridge. Increase the string tension and it will pull against the springs. A tremol-no will let you lock it in place, or something like an ESP arming adjuster will help minimize movement and flutter.


I wouldn't buy a tremol no if I were you. I did a quick google search and saw they cost between 30 to 50. You can do the same job wedging a rubber in the back. It's what I've done for my two floyd roses and it's worked perfectly fine.
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Old 02-09-2013, 08:24 PM   #14
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It's coming with my next guitar. I think direct is $50 or so, though from what I've heard, they've been out of stock for freaking forever. I do like having easy access on the fly though without having to remove and replace a stop. Not terribly high for the functionality.

EDIT: Looks like pricing went up to $75 from the $50 it was when I looked a few years ago. Definitely a bit ridiculous at that price, but it's still useful.
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Old 02-09-2013, 08:46 PM   #15
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I love the newer Ibanez trems since they don't go out of tune when you bend
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Old 02-10-2013, 12:02 AM   #16
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Jesus motherf*cking Christ! I left the thread for like 5 minutes and suddenly all these new posts came up XD But anyways, I don't want to buy a tremo-no. I can do the same thing with some picks or a block of wood. It's way too expensive. Besides, the whole point of a Floyd for me is the whammy bar! lol And yes, the tuning stability. Ah man, this sucks. As much as I love my tremolo bridge, I'm just going to get a les paul next.
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Old 02-10-2013, 12:17 AM   #17
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Old 02-10-2013, 04:00 AM   #18
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As much as i love my tremolo bridge, I'm just going to get a les paul next.

Oh, definitely do this. Trems are nice, but there are several disadvantages that come with them.
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Old 02-10-2013, 10:47 AM   #19
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This is why I blocked my Floyd with two solid chunks of mahogany and oak. For the amount I actually used the whammy bar, I hated it for bends and I especially hated it when chugging/galloping -- the bridge would move just from my hard picking; and that was with four springs installed. It really hurt my rhythm technique.

I do like the fine-tuning capabilities of my Floyd though. Maybe someday I'll get a Tremel-No...
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Old 02-10-2013, 10:58 AM   #20
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Gotta learn to bend with floyd. For example you want to do a g9 b7 unison,so u have to bend the g string further then on a fixed bridge, because the bridge dives and you have to bend the b string a bit too. Kinda tricky, i'm learning it now :P
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