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Old 02-10-2013, 12:00 PM   #1
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Some weird buzzing!

I recently got Lace Golds put in my Strat. I then started to notice a weird buzzing overtone around the 9th-15th fret on the G and B, I can only hear it when it's distorted, I don't hear it on my other guitars.

Here's the issue. I'm only playing it on the G there at around the 12th.

https://soundcloud.com/farce_bandit/buzzy-mixdown

What is it???
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Old 02-10-2013, 12:13 PM   #2
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record the same thing unplugged please.
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Old 02-10-2013, 12:14 PM   #3
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Alright. Gimme a few mins. Can you hear it though? Weird ain't it.
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Old 02-10-2013, 12:26 PM   #4
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Do you get the buzz unplugged?
This might be caused by small rattlings of loose parts. Check so that everything that touches the string are solid in place. Bridge plate, bridge saddles, nut, string trees, tuners etc...

Also, the tremolo springs can sometime cause these spring metallic sounds. If you can, try to damper the springs and see if the "buzzing" is still there. Easiest is to hold them with something soft and strum the guitar.
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Old 02-10-2013, 12:32 PM   #5
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There ya go.

http://soundcloud.com/farce_bandit/unplugg1-mixdown

It's really hard to hear unplugged, I think I can, then I can't, especially now that I've been doing it for so long it's all I hear lol.

I'm not sure if it's there unplugged, or not. I'm pretty sure it's not. :/ could you hear it distorted?
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Old 02-10-2013, 12:49 PM   #6
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I could hear it but only slightly. Can you hold the notes longer?
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Old 02-10-2013, 12:50 PM   #7
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i couldnt get the clips to play....

does it sound acoustic? strum and touch parts, like said.

when plugged in,
does it sound on all switch channels?
when you touch strings, rotate tone pots, does the sound alter?


is the guitar intonated properly? (could it be sympathetic resonance)
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Old 02-10-2013, 12:58 PM   #8
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I've had them all recently set up.

They should play. I can hear the issue quite well on the first clip. I can only hear it on the gain channel. If I turn the volume down I do t hear it. I know there's a vibrating kind of resonance when you play, it's not that, it's a fuzzy, buzzy kind of thing.
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Old 02-10-2013, 01:12 PM   #9
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ok, so i hear it unplugged. sorry, i had my speaker off

so, raise the string a little?
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Old 02-10-2013, 01:16 PM   #10
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Do you think it's fret buzz?
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yes honestly, if that was unplugged and there's a faint buzzing especially at the beginning, then yes, that's fret buzz.

and slight string raising or checking the reieif will help.
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Old 02-10-2013, 01:31 PM   #12
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ok, so i hear it unplugged. sorry, i had my speaker off

so, raise the string a little?

i'm hearing it too.

jen if it was the saddle it would do it on all the frets with that string right?

because it sorta sounds like when a saddle is sitar'ing.

i'm not saying that's what i think it is, i'm just throwing that out there.
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it wouldnt necessarily do it with all the frets on that string.
(unless it's the saddle buzzing and Not at the fret)

most likely the guy that set it up, changed the relief, and now
some of the high-middle frets are "higher" than they used to be.

so to compensate, hes going to need to raise the string.
or check all aspects of the setup.
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Old 02-10-2013, 01:37 PM   #14
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I should just bring it back to the store I think. I only recently had it set up. Things, it's intermittent. Sometimes you can hear it easier than other times.

Is that weird?
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Old 02-10-2013, 01:38 PM   #15
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not weird. typical.

you need to be specific when getting a guitar setup.

buzz not transmitting thru an amp is generally not considered an issue. so techs will get the action as low as possible and often will create slight buzz.

always play a guitar before taking it home.
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Old 02-10-2013, 01:44 PM   #16
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Ok here's what happened. It was kinda low originally, but I bought some Lace Golds and they installed that.

I asked him to raise the action, he did. I brought it home, noticed the same thing but I thought it was my new amp, brought it back to him just in case, said there's no buzz but raised the action a bit. Then I come home, the amp states spluttering and crackling so I think ah, definitely the amp, so I ignore the buzz thinking it's the amp. Then a few days later I realise it's the guitar, but I'm not sure what it is.

Argh. I don't wanna keep going back, they seem to think I'm alright as they chat to me and let me play their 8,000 guitars but I'm in and out of there with the same problem and I don't want them to think I'm a loon.
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ok i'm not saying that there isnt a grounding, or bad cable also causing a buzzing.

what i clicked on, was an Acoustic clip and there was buzzing.

if there is nothing plugging in, and you are hearing some buzz then either something is rattling (like a loose part)
or the string is rubbing the fret and you have a little fret buzz.

if you have a tiny allen wrench, then raise that string a bit, and
see if it stops. if it does, then you are Not a loon.

well, not about this anyway.
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Old 02-10-2013, 01:56 PM   #18
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Ok cool.

Listen to the first one too if you have time, that should be conclusive for you.
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Old 02-10-2013, 01:59 PM   #19
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ok let me click the links.

so try the "quick fix" of lifting one of the saddles a little,
by lowering the two pegs.
then post back.
if it helped, (even a little) we can stick with just adjusting the bridge, or looking at the neck's relief.
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Old 02-10-2013, 02:05 PM   #20
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I can't do it, mate. I don't have the Allen key...

I'll have to get one or bring it to them. I think the first link is definitely going to make your mind up. Lol.
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