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Old 02-13-2013, 08:04 PM   #1
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Need opinions on a new amp. Going to GC tomorrow

Budget? - $600

Genres? - Metllica, black sabbath, Led Zeppelin, Skynyrd, and blues

New or Used? - Must be new. Don't want to return another broken one

Home or gig? 100% home now. Maybe someday jamming with friends

Closest City? - Goig to Richmond Va tomorrow to return broken tube amp, would like to pick something up in store tomorrow also

Current Gear? - Ibanez S620, fender strat, LTD EC 100QM, line 6 floor pod, Marshall 4x12 cabinet, broken 15 watt Marshall haze tube amp

I am looking for something that will give a deep chunk sound when needed, have good clean tones. Don't care if it is tube or SS.

I also have to take the cabinet back so they can make sure it is the amp and not the cabinet, so I can if needed return that too. This was all bought on 2-12-12
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Old 02-13-2013, 08:10 PM   #2
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I would go ahead and return the cabinet, however, I would still consider going used and very extensively demoing the amp in store. Be "that guy." Turn all the knobs, crank it to full, play it for a good long time.

Now, recommendations. For versatility on a budget, you could always try a Vypyr Tube 60. awesome versatile amp, highly recommended here.

Egnater should have an offering in your budget, especially used. One of the larger tweakers (the 40 watter comes to mind) might do you nicely.

Blackstar also has some offerings, I am not a fan but a lot of folks are.

You could check out the new DSL15 watt that just came out, though reviews seem to be pretty mixed.

I should also ask, do you have a particular Metallica era you prefer? Their tone has changed quite a bit over the years, most of my recommendations would work for early 'Tallica, the Vypyr is probably the only one that can get heavy enough all by it's lonesome to cover modern stuff from them.
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Old 02-13-2013, 08:10 PM   #3
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Peavey Vypyr Tube 60, you may have to order it at GC though. You can afford a new one (I think), it'll cover all your needs, sound great and be loud enough to jam if needed.
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Old 02-13-2013, 10:02 PM   #4
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My local GC has a vyper 60. I played it for about 10 mins. Maybe I didn't give it enough time, but I was not impressed With it at all. Not to mention, I'm not really looking for a modeling amp. I have a floor pod for that. I guess I am old school, we use to just plug into the amp and turn some knobs to get the sound we wanted. I had a Randall half stack that I used all the time, and that all I had to do. The budget would be at $600 if I also returned the cabinet. Figured I would clear that up.

The Metallica I play is pre black album. Why is their a lot of hate towards Marshall MG stuff? Has Marshall gone downhill while I was out of the loop?
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Old 02-13-2013, 11:06 PM   #5
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The MG line is meant to be the very limited budget line of Marshalls. There's a lot of hate towards them because they're very low end. Marshall hasn't gone downhill (in my opinion), though they haven't been making new innovative amps lately (again... in my opinion). But $600 might be a little low for a Marshall amp if that's what you're trying to go for. You may be able to get a TSL or DSL model for that price, but you'll need to boost either of those with a pedal because when I tried both those lines I wasn't too impressed with their overdrive channels.
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Old 02-13-2013, 11:59 PM   #6
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GC seem to have a very limited in stock selection ( mine at least.)
No Blackstar or Bogner.
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Old 02-14-2013, 12:01 AM   #7
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I don't know how much they are new but a Bogner Alchemist would be a safe bet for all that stuff as well.
So would a Jet City combo.
Or Egnater Tweaker series something, most GCs have those in stock.
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Old 02-14-2013, 07:32 AM   #8
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My local GC has the Egnater 40 tweaker. I'll give it a try tomorrow
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Old 02-14-2013, 09:21 AM   #9
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I also have to take the cabinet back so they can make sure it is the amp and not the cabinet, so I can if needed return that too. This was all bought on 2-12-12

if you bought all this stuff a year ago, you won't be "returning" it.

you will be trading it in.

and you won't get near what you paid for it.
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Old 02-14-2013, 10:22 AM   #10
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Lol. My bad. I bought it on just last Tuesday. Not a year ago. Sorry
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Old 02-14-2013, 10:46 AM   #11
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My local GC has the Egnater 40 tweaker. I'll give it a try tomorrow

I think this will be the ticket...
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Old 02-14-2013, 11:01 AM   #12
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Get the Egnater.
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Old 02-14-2013, 04:34 PM   #13
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I went with the Egnater 40 tweaker
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Old 02-14-2013, 05:19 PM   #14
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The Tweaker 40 is a good option, but might lack some gain that you want. You might need to boost it with an OD pedal.

Alternatively, a Marshall JCM2000 DSL401 can be bought in that price range, and you could upgrade the speaker and tubes with the money left over.

A Peavey Ultra would be another solid choice. Again, you could upgrade the tubes and speaker with the leftover, or with this one, you could even buy the head and a cab. A Marshall 1960 or 1936 would be the way to go for earlier Metallica.

You might be able to find a Peavey XXX or JSX combo in that price range.

As for the recent Marshall stuff, the only decent amps are the Vintage Modern and YJM. The JVM is pretty unimpressive, the newer DSL's are decent, but the old ones are better, The MG series is positively terrible, and the MA is thin and weak sounding.

The best Marshalls for what you want would be a JCM2000 DSL or even a TSL. The key with those is to make sure the DSL is made after '04. The TSL and earlier DSL's have an issue where the rectifier will overheat and melt the insides. A trip to the tech when you get it can prevent that, though. The, a JCM900 would be fine. The SL/X is the best of the three, then the MKIII. The Dual Reverb is quite terrible, but it can be fixed with a little DIY. If you don't care about solid state vs tube, it probably wouldn't matter to you, though. Then, the JCM800 would be your next option. You'll have to crank the crap out of it to get the tone you want, though, unless you get a Master Volume one. It'll probably still need boosted.

If you want a JCM800 on a budget, you can get a Peavey Windsor. They're just a few mods away from an exact JCM800 circuit.

With speakers, you probably want a Celestion G12T-75 or the Clone that WGS makes. The Marshall 1960 and 1936 cabs came with those stock. The WGS clone is only like $70, and those guys make excellent speakers. I haven't tried that one personally, but I have a V30 clone they make, and it's amazing.


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