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Old 02-13-2013, 05:40 PM   #1
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Amp Decision for a Picky Ear

I sold my Splawn and I'm in the market for a new high-gainer . But I'm not exactly sure what I want... I prefer lower mid-voiced, bright Britishesque amps with a prominent low end.

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The two amps in my sight are a Soldano Hot Rod 50+ and a Mesa Tremoverb. I'll list the amps I've owned and my opinions about 'em to help give an idea of the sound I'm after. Because frankly, I don't even know what I'm after.


Jet City JCA100H: Favorite amp I've owned yet. I wish the normal channel had more clean headroom, with a 5751 in V1 it brought the gain and saturation down to acceptable levels for me on both channels.

Peavey JSX: Clean channel was very nice, except I couldn't dial in a good low-gain sound. High gain channel was too tight for my liking and way too much sizzle. Overall the amp sounded too "refined" and sterile, reminiscent of a hybrid or SS amp. Didn't keep this one long

Mesa 3ch Triple Rectifier: Liked the clean channel quite a bit, could dial in all sorts of nice tones. Crunch channel was horrible and didn't cut through at all. Lead channel was the typical Recto sound and it agreed with me. I wish the amp was brighter and that the channel switches didn't cause a HUGE difference in volume. I vastly preferred running EL34's in this amp instead of 6L6's

Splawn Quick Rod: Nearly there but not quite. The upper mids sounded funky to me on high gain and I hated the controls on the amp. Not enough saturation for my tastes, and the clean channel's volume was drastically different from the rest of the amp. I really liked the Plexi setting on OD2 though, the rest of it not so much.
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Old 02-13-2013, 05:41 PM   #2
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The speakers I have are a Legend V12 (8 ohm), Vintage 30 (16 ohm), and a G12H30 anniversary (16ohm). I love the G12 and wish I had a V12 in 16 to match it
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Old 02-13-2013, 05:59 PM   #3
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Dont know if you have tried them yet but look up used Blackstar series one's they have EL34 Based and a 6L6 based model. Very chunky amps the EL34 is a High Gain guy but not a stupid amount in my opinon. Also has that ISF which on that amp really helps define exactly how much brit to U.S tone you want.

Just a suggestion.
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Old 02-13-2013, 06:01 PM   #4
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if you liked the jet city best i'd probably get the soldano. I haven't tried the hot rod, but i've tried the avenger (and i've got the 50 watt jet city, not the 100), but i'm guessing they're close enough. my jet city does remind me of the avenger i tried.
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Old 02-13-2013, 06:05 PM   #5
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You checked out the Soldano Lucky 13? Probably harder to find used, and the gain channel I don't think has quite as much gain on tap as the hot rod, but the clean channel is stunning and the gain channel is pretty good still.
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Old 02-13-2013, 06:12 PM   #6
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Dave, have you compared the normal channel's headroom to the 100? I'm curious how different they are. I've compared a 20W to the 100W, but not a 50. I liked the Jet City quite a bit, I just wish it had more clean headroom before the distortion started kicking in.


I haven't really checked out a Lucky 13
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Old 02-13-2013, 06:13 PM   #7
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Oh hell i skipped the second paragraph :/ Hot Rod all the way chunk and balls for days and days. Rip it.
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Old 02-13-2013, 06:16 PM   #8
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Dave, have you compared the normal channel's headroom to the 100? I'm curious how different they are. I've compared a 20W to the 100W, but not a 50. I liked the Jet City quite a bit, I just wish it had more clean headroom before the distortion started kicking in.


I haven't really checked out a Lucky 13

Try and find one, GC list the combo quite often so may be able to find one in a store to try
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Old 02-13-2013, 06:22 PM   #9
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Mesa Roadster or Soldano Lucky 13?
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Old 02-13-2013, 06:30 PM   #10
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I'm probably the only one who will suggest this, but the Line 6 DT25. The amount of amazing tones I can get out of mine is unreal, despite it being a hybrid amp.

Be sure to get a USB to MIDI cable with it though, so you can fine-tune your sound (speaker setup, reverb, amp style) using a laptop and DTEdit. It does it all, I consider myself an all-rounder when it comes to genres and the amp suits me perfectly.
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Old 02-13-2013, 06:43 PM   #11
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You checked out the Soldano Lucky 13? Probably harder to find used, and the gain channel I don't think has quite as much gain on tap as the hot rod, but the clean channel is stunning and the gain channel is pretty good still.
Checking out clips, I love the clean channel but I'm not crazy about the OD. If I could get the L13's clean and the Hot Rod's OD in the same amp...




I think the 20th Anniversary Bogner Shiva would be a perfect amp, but it's out of my price range. I wish the regular Shiva had more gain on the OD channel.
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Old 02-13-2013, 06:46 PM   #12
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is it the SLO gain channel you're after
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Checking out clips, I love the clean channel but I'm not crazy about the OD. If I could get the L13's clean and the Hot Rod's OD in the same amp...




I think the 20th Anniversary Bogner Shiva would be a perfect amp, but it's out of my price range. I wish the regular Shiva had more gain on the OD channel.


I hear ya. Found a good deal on a shiva on ebay once and i almost got it but i knew i wouldnt be happy with the OD. The 20th is king but yeah right im paying that price. If you like the Uberschall you can walk away like a king on ebay all day long. Cheapest i found one time was $999-1299.
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Old 02-13-2013, 06:55 PM   #14
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Putting it out there, considering a JCM900 SL-X? If you're after a British voiced amp that is. Tons of gain, has that Marshall top end and is very chunky. Was super impressed with the one I played through. Not sure how similar it will be to your Splawn though and if you want something different.

Something on the darker side, Orange Rockerverb MKI/II? MKII more so if cleans are super important, the cleans on the MKI were kind of meh. I'm not sure how good the Orange used market is in terms of prices/availability, but IIRC they're kind of similar to Australia's.
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The Rockerverbs are way too dark for my tastes, but thanks for the suggestion!
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Dave, have you compared the normal channel's headroom to the 100? I'm curious how different they are. I've compared a 20W to the 100W, but not a 50. I liked the Jet City quite a bit, I just wish it had more clean headroom before the distortion started kicking in.


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Here's a used Egnater Armageddon for $1399.

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Laney? Also, browse GC's used site. Free shipping over $100 and it comes right to the door.
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TITAN Custom

Hell of an amp for $1350 brand new. Zach is a cool guy and his amps are superb, the Custom is very Soldano-eqsue.

They're all individually handmade so you'll be waiting a few weeks though.
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Laney? Also, browse GC's used site. Free shipping over $100 and it comes right to the door.


i'd be concerned it might be too much like his splawn. I haven't tried the splawn, but assuming it's hot-rod marshally (and the laney gh is too)...

i really think the soldano (or something soldano-ish, i suppose, like a titan, but i haven't tried it) is the way to go. he pretty much already knows what he wants. it's just the clean channel thing.
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