Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: strawberry fields
facebook drama! grab yee popcorn!
i was on facebook after my worthless attempt at learning waves of babies and i scroll down and this post captured my attention:
Professor : You are a Christian, arenít you, son ?
Student : Yes, sir.
Professor: So, you believe in GOD ?
Student : Absolutely, sir.
Professor : Is GOD good ?
Student : Sure.
Professor: Is GOD all powerful ?
Student : Yes.
Professor: My brother died of cancer even though he prayed to GOD to heal him. Most of us would attempt to help others who are ill. But GOD didnít. How is this GOD good then? Hmm?
(Student was silent.)
Professor: You canít answer, can you ? Letís start again, young fella. Is GOD good?
Student : Yes.
Professor: Is satan good ?
Student : No.
Professor: Where does satan come from ?
Student : From Ö GOD Ö
Professor: Thatís right. Tell me son, is there evil in this world?
Student : Yes.
Professor: Evil is everywhere, isnít it ? And GOD did make everything. Correct?
Student : Yes.
Professor: So who created evil ?
(Student did not answer.)
Professor: Is there sickness? Immorality? Hatred? Ugliness? All these terrible things exist in the world, donít they?
Student : Yes, sir.
Professor: So, who created them ?
(Student had no answer.)
Professor: Science says you have 5 Senses you use to identify and observe the world around you. Tell me, son, have you ever seen GOD?
Student : No, sir.
Professor: Tell us if you have ever heard your GOD?
Student : No , sir.
Professor: Have you ever felt your GOD, tasted your GOD, smelt your GOD? Have you ever had any sensory perception of GOD for that matter?
Student : No, sir. Iím afraid I havenít.
Professor: Yet you still believe in Him?
Student : Yes.
Professor : According to Empirical, Testable, Demonstrable Protocol, Science says your GOD doesnít exist. What do you say to that, son?
Student : Nothing. I only have my faith.
Professor: Yes, faith. And that is the problem Science has.
Student : Professor, is there such a thing as heat?
Student : And is there such a thing as cold?
Student : No, sir. There isnít.
(The lecture theater became very quiet with this turn of events.)
Student : Sir, you can have lots of heat, even more heat, superheat, mega heat, white heat, a little heat or no heat. But we donít have anything called cold. We can hit 458 degrees below zero which is no heat, but we canít go any further after that. There is no such thing as cold. Cold is only a word we use to describe the absence of heat. We cannot measure cold. Heat is energy. Cold is not the opposite of heat, sir, just the absence of it.
(There was pin-drop silence in the lecture theater.)
Student : What about darkness, Professor? Is there such a thing as darkness?
Professor: Yes. What is night if there isnít darkness?
Student : Youíre wrong again, sir. Darkness is the absence of something. You can have low light, normal light, bright light, flashing light. But if you have no light constantly, you have nothing and its called darkness, isnít it? In reality, darkness isnít. If it is, well you would be able to make darkness darker, wouldnít you?
Professor: So what is the point you are making, young man ?
Student : Sir, my point is your philosophical premise is flawed.
Professor: Flawed ? Can you explain how?
Student : Sir, you are working on the premise of duality. You argue there is life and then there is death, a good GOD and a bad GOD. You are viewing the concept of GOD as something finite, something we can measure. Sir, Science canít even explain a thought. It uses electricity and magnetism, but has never seen, much less fully understood either one. To view death as the opposite of life is to be ignorant of the fact that death cannot exist as a substantive thing.
Death is not the opposite of life: just the absence of it. Now tell me, Professor, do you teach your students that they evolved from a monkey?
Professor: If you are referring to the natural evolutionary process, yes, of course, I do.
Student : Have you ever observed evolution with your own eyes, sir?
(The Professor shook his head with a smile, beginning to realize where the argument was going.)
Student : Since no one has ever observed the process of evolution at work and cannot even prove that this process is an on-going endeavor. Are you not teaching your opinion, sir? Are you not a scientist but a preacher?
(The class was in uproar.)
Student : Is there anyone in the class who has ever seen the Professorís brain?
(The class broke out into laughter. )
Student : Is there anyone here who has ever heard the Professorís brain, felt it, touched or smelt it? No one appears to have done so. So, according to the established Rules of Empirical, Stable, Demonstrable Protocol, Science says that you have no brain, sir. With all due respect, sir, how do we then trust your lectures, sir?
(The room was silent. The Professor stared at the student, his face unfathomable.)
Professor: I guess youíll have to take them on faith, son.
Student : That is it sir Ö Exactly ! The link between man & GOD is FAITH. That is all that keeps things alive and moving.
I believe you have enjoyed the conversation. And if so, youíll probably want your friends / colleagues to enjoy the same, wonít you?
Forward this to increase their knowledge Ö or FAITH.
By the way, that student was EINSTEIN.
so after reading thru it i post my opinion:
many people have observed the process of evolution at work, here are 8.
if you wanted to use evolution as an example of proving god to be real or fake, you are wrong. you are already wrong, you didnt even say anything yet, how can you be wrong? well, its like trying to argue whether or not global warming exists and bringing up how my oven is getting cooler ever time i use it. it isnt related in any way shape or form. if you were to set up a mathematical proof, evolution would not be a listed theorem in the proof, because it isnt proof or disproof. its just a fact, like heat.
heat is a word used to describe temperature which is a word used to describe the amount of energy of molecules in a system. molecules are just a word to describe ext ext ext. the only way we can talk about anything is by using these descriptions. we have no other way of communicating ideas.
with that being said, the argument should have not gone that way. the professor should have said, son, you keep using this term god. you are describing these abstract ideas uing the word god. because the word youve used to associate the idea of god. but you arent describing god. you are describing the universe and its natural order. the universe doesnt need a god for it to do the things you think god is doing. the unvierse created itself. the universe makes you move around. the universe makes you think. the universe gives people ideas liek the piano. god didnt do any of that. god is almost like a synonym for "fundamental laws of the universe" except it isnt a synonym because its wrong. its more like a misspelling. an error humans catch onto and repeat over and over agian cuz its easy. like aint. aint aint a word. but its easy to say and it seems to fit the sentences we use it in.
faith is like an excuse to belive something you actually have no proof your self. if faith wasnt a word, or an idea, what would you tell people? if an alien race came to our planet in peace, and asked for our planets history. we would tell them god created this plaenet and all of us people. but we have no proof other than a poorly written book full of lies and false information. and we have faith. except you cant say faith because it isnt a word in my hypothetical situation. you have no other word because faith ahs always been your excuse.
either way this alien species would laugh at us for thinking a god created them specifically, in 7 days, without dinosaurs.
then he responded with this:
Dude you better pray to my God that I wake up tomorrow and I let go of this anger. I told you to be careful how you speak about my God. I told you I love Him more than my family. I had warned you. You better pray to my God for Him to talk to me tonight, though it may be sin to hurt someone, you have crossed the line. My wisdom comes from God, yours comes from your arrogance. Your scared to sleep so you smoke pathetic, guess what, I've been attacked by demons at night, I've been dragged out of bed, I've been choked by black silhouettes that I've seen with my own eyes and touched with my own hands, I've had marks left on my body. Yet do you see me make excuses why I can't sleep? Are you gonna say being dragged out of bed was an illusion of my head or the universe did that? That the marks on my neck after being choked were self inflicted when they appeared right after the incident? I never once disrespected your beliefs, I never once purposely try to disrespect you
Just pray, cuz this, you pushed it too far. I wish I could text my thoughts at the moment, but cops can read messages.
so, i think he is completely insane. did i deserve this response?