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Thanks for that. Now, when it comes to gigging what about an Epi LP as oppsosed to to a Gibson LP do you take into account? |
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02-16-2013, 07:45 PM
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Your audience will never tell the difference so if you don't wanna hurt your main, leave it at home and use the Epi as the workhorse
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02-16-2013, 08:04 PM
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 Read the specs of this 600USD/500Euro Epi and see how many of your points still are valid.... http://www2.gibson.com/Products/Ele...ibute-Plus.aspx |
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02-16-2013, 08:06 PM
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The tone isn't negligible though. The LP Studio Faded (One of the lower end Gibson LPs) sounds better than the Epi LP Standard. The quality of that guitar is 10x the Epi too, just the back of the Gibsons neck feels like quality. Move higher up and it's even clearer, less muddy, warmer, holds tuning better, has better quality control, better electronics, wood etc. Just the Faded is much much better than the Epi LP Standard. I've owned a couple of Epi LPs and I've owned a Faded and now have a Traditional. I think the Epiphones are good for their price range, but Gibsons are something else, in my opinion. So to me, and most people with ears, the difference is completely apparent which makes the point kinda moot. 
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02-16-2013, 08:21 PM
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The most important point, the woods used and construction process, still holds valid. You can change out hardware all day long, you cant change the wood.
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02-16-2013, 08:29 PM
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Here's a Epi vs Gibson demo, pretty huge difference here. Not sure if its always that case.
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02-16-2013, 08:42 PM
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On the same topic (sort of) is there a higher difference, on average, between a MIA Strat vs an MIM or an Epi Paul vs. a Gibson?
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02-16-2013, 09:29 PM
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Korean Epi's are likened to MIM.
Chinese ones are like the Squires. BTW ..... Never had a Gibson with sharp fret ends and a bad finish (anyone else?). |
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02-16-2013, 09:44 PM
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This thread again?
Look epiphone is not as good as Gibson, period. Don't look at them as diffrent companys, they are products from the same company. Epiphone is the low-end of Gibson, this is how it is deal with it. Now there are some very good Epiphones, I have one that I prefer to many Gibsons, but at the end of the day, the Gibson is way better as far as materials and craftsmanship are conserned. Now I like the way my Epi feels better, but that does not make it a superior guitar. Now Japanese made Epiphones are a diffrent story, they are very high quality for the most part.
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02-16-2013, 10:04 PM
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A thing I hardly ever see being mentioned is the neck/headstock issue.
Gibson's have a one piece neck with ears glued on the headstock for width. Epiphone uses one piece headstock glued onto the neck via a scarf joint. Gibson's have a 17 degree angle on the headstock. Epi's angle is much less. |
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02-16-2013, 10:23 PM
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I played a friends Epi LP the other day, with drums and bass, it played and looked really good but the pups were thin and made me want to play the SG again right away. I think replacing the pups on his it would be a great guitar though, the neck felt good. Didn't stay in tune very well though, could just be the guy wrapped them bad or something.
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02-16-2013, 11:08 PM
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I mean "fake" as in plastic and/or painted on, not a piece of maple that was masked-off during the painting process. I guess the term I should have used is "natural binding"
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02-16-2013, 11:12 PM
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It says right on the spec sheet that it is flame maple veneer and generic hardware. http://www2.gibson.com/Products/Ele...Plus/Specs.aspx I will admit that they did make some great advancements in electronics. That must be something new they've done recently. Most of the older ones have just whatever they can cram into them.
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02-16-2013, 11:15 PM
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02-16-2013, 11:16 PM
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I hate to spoil your fun but the binding on most guitars, including USA Gibsons, is a plastic strip. Yes, some have masked-off binding but that doesn't make it in any way better or worse. It is purely a cosmetic detail. Epiphone Standard series and up are generally quite good. Some have Grover Tuners, which is a nice touch. The stock pickups aren't my favourite but they certainly aren't bad for the price, and recently they've been making guitars with Gibson and EMG pickups. The cheapest Epiphones are unexceptional. You get what you pay for in that price range. When comparing them to cheap Gibsons, I don't think there's anything I could say that would justify the difference. Some people think it's worth it, others don't. I can't help but feel that some people deliberately seek flaws in affordable guitars, because they subconciously want the more expensive ones to be better (especially if they're made in a different country).
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02-16-2013, 11:26 PM
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Generally, you get what you pay for. There is a minor difference between MIM and MIA Fenders (mostly wood and hardware), but to be honest the quality is pretty good throughout. I've played MIM Fender's that sounded and felt better than their MIA counterpart. With the price of MIM Fender's going up to $600 now, there really isn't that much of a price difference between the two. Gibson/Epiphone on the other hand is all over the map. Epiphone specifically is made by so many factories it's hard to get consistent quality and Gibson just doesn't really give a shit anymore. Go to a guitar shop and play a bunch of random Gibson's and Epiphone's and you'll see how much the quality varies between guitar to guitar. It's kind of bizarre.
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I never said it was better or worse. He was asking what the differences are, and I told him. I don't really give a shit either way, as long as it looks nice.
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02-16-2013, 11:45 PM
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........and people with Epiphones often try to convince that Gibson's aren't worth it. |
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Gibsons use plastic as binding as well. The only "natural" binding they use is on the cheap guitars. I know the difference. You seem to not know about Gibsons if you're implying that they use that process in the standards.
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I never said they didn't. All I said is that they don't use natural binding...
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