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Old 02-21-2013, 01:37 AM   #41
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i'm just gonna wrap it up by saying yeah you don't have to be a punx scholar to distinguish converge from trivium or whatever, that wasn't my point.

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'genres' are tools of communication and they're nebulous things. say 'numetalcore' in the real world (or 'metallic hardcore' for that matter) and you'll probably have to explain yourself.

I have no issue with that actually. I usually don't bother to use terms like that unless I know enough about the person to know that they might know what I'm talking about. Now, if I do have to explain it; fine, it's no big deal.

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Old 02-21-2013, 01:39 AM   #42
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How can a bunch of people on a GUITAR forum not recognize the Black Flag logo?
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Old 02-21-2013, 01:43 AM   #43
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How can a bunch of people on a GUITAR forum not recognize the Black Flag logo?


The extent of my Black Flag knowledge:

Henry Rollins,

the end.
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Old 02-21-2013, 09:31 AM   #44
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How can a bunch of people on a GUITAR forum not recognize the Black Flag logo?


Well, it is a guitar forum, so I would assume that people would listen to music that actually has competent guitar playing... ie not Black Flag.
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Old 02-21-2013, 09:50 AM   #45
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Well, it is a guitar forum, so I would assume that people would listen to music that actually has competent guitar playing... ie not Black Flag.


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Old 02-21-2013, 10:21 AM   #46
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Black Flag is probably the most punk rock band out there
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Old 02-21-2013, 11:11 AM   #48
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It's punk rock but, like, really super.


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Old 02-21-2013, 11:25 AM   #49
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I love when people get into arguments about subgenres that don't exist outside of the actual arguments themselves.

Genre discussions always make me laugh. Get over your semantics and just listen to music.

As for the OP, I suggest black ripped denim undershorts.
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Old 02-21-2013, 11:27 AM   #50
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I love when people get into arguments about subgenres that don't exist outside of the actual arguments themselves.

Genre discussions always make me laugh. Get over your semantics and just listen to music.


Yeah, let's just call all music rock, since it's not like it sounds different in any way.
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Old 02-21-2013, 11:29 AM   #52
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I love when people get into arguments about subgenres that don't exist outside of the actual arguments themselves.

Genre discussions always make me laugh. Get over your semantics and just listen to music.

As for the OP, I suggest black ripped denim undershorts.

and this guy

i dont like him either
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Yeah, let's just call all music rock, since it's not like it sounds different in any way.


I never said anything about calling all music rock. Distinctions are important, minutia isn't. There isn't really any reason to have 75 different kinds of "Hardcore" just because one band records lo-fi and another has two basses.

Obviously I'm exaggerating, but the point is the same.
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There isn't really any reason to have 75 different kinds of "Hardcore" just because one band records lo-fi and another has two basses.


No, but there is reason to have 75 different kinds of hardcore because they are distinct styles of music.

And I'm not exaggerating.
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No, but there is reason to have 75 different kinds of hardcore because they are distinct styles of music.

And I'm not exaggerating.


I'm just not a fan of dividing music based on inconsequential differences. If I ask what kind of music a band plays and you tell me "Mathcore", I'm going to know what you mean.
But if you tried to explain the difference between "Deathcore" or Grindcore, or Deathgrind, or what have you, I'd just tell you that they're different levels of similar styles.
Its the multiple crossover stuff I have a problem with. Specificity is nice, but you can definitely get too fine in describing something.
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But if you tried to explain the difference between "Deathcore" or Grindcore, or Deathgrind, or what have you, I'd just tell you that they're different levels of similar styles.


Deathcore and grindcore are completely unrelated subgenres.

It seems that you're not a fan of differentiating between specific and distinct types of music because you're unable to do it yourself.
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I'm just not a fan of dividing music based on inconsequential differences. If I ask what kind of music a band plays and you tell me "Mathcore", I'm going to know what you mean.
But if you tried to explain the difference between "Deathcore" or Grindcore, or Deathgrind, or what have you, I'd just tell you that they're different levels of similar styles.

because you don't know those genres

just like people that don't listen to metal don't understand the difference between death metal and black metal, and people that don't like electronic don't know the difference between house music and trance
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because you don't know those genres

just like people that don't listen to metal don't understand the difference between death metal and black metal, and people that don't like electronic don't know the difference between house music and trance


And even more specific stuff. People that don't listen to trance wouldn't know the difference between uplifting trance, tech trance, acid trance, dream trance, goa, etc. Yet anyone that is familiar with trance music could certainly differentiate between the various styles. In fact, astute listeners can spot regional trends within the music and could possibly tell you the country, or even city, of origin of the music simply by listening to it.
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Deathcore and grindcore are completely unrelated subgenres.

It seems that you're not a fan of differentiating between specific and distinct types of music because you're unable to do it yourself.


To be fair, I only know them by name, not by sound.
And honestly, this is the part of the conversation where I slowly realise that there is merit to many of the distinctions, but refuse to admit it because I've dug myself a hole caused by my first visceral reaction to obnoxious genre names like "NuMetalCore".

That being said, No u r wrong. I am to much smarter for you to understand.

Edit: That being said, I still don't like indepth genre distinctions on a personal level.
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That being said, I still don't like indepth genre distinctions on a personal level.


That's cool as long as you are willing to accept that they are often highly necessary for many applications.
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