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View Poll Results: Are video games an artform?
Yes 96 50.79%
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Not inherently, but some games could be considered as such. 75 39.68%
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Old 02-24-2013, 11:01 PM   #21
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Video games are a combination of visual art, narrative, and music. Video games themselves are not inherently art, but they are a collection of art put together in a (hopefully) unified way that can be interpreted as an artistic statement.

I wouldn't call Forza a form of artistic expression, but I would very much say so about a game like Bioshock. It's about the intent.
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Old 02-24-2013, 11:03 PM   #22
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Guitars and drums etc were the results of science/engineering, etc


Guitars are made with wood, not code. IMO real art is of nature and cannot be made with 1s and 0s.
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Old 02-24-2013, 11:04 PM   #23
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Guitars are made with wood, not code. IMO real art is of nature and cannot be made with 1s and 0s.


It took engineering to figure out how to turn that wood into an instrument.
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Guitars are made with wood, not code. IMO real art is of nature and cannot be made with 1s and 0s.

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It took engineering to figure out how to turn that wood into an instrument.


The manufacture of guitars may be scientific, but not digital.
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The manufacture of guitars may be scientific, but not digital.


Engineering is not purely related to computers. At all.
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Videogames have visual expression, music, and writing. And it is interactive. If anything, it's the most complete form of art. Games like Bioshock and Fallout even let the player express themselves.


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Video games are a combination of visual art, narrative, and music. Video games themselves are not inherently art, but they are a collection of art put together in a (hopefully) unified way that can be interpreted as an artistic statement.

I wouldn't call Forza a form of artistic expression, but I would very much say so about a game like Bioshock. It's about the intent.

I didnt even read this before I posted.
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Old 02-24-2013, 11:12 PM   #30
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Look at Shadow of The Colossus, Okami, or Bioshock and tell me you don't see and hear art.
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Engineering is not purely related to computers. At all.

For the majority of history (read: about 90-97% of it) it had nothing to do with computers/digitalshit whatsoever.

EDIT: And I would call Forza art. It's just not in the same sense that a game like SotC is. It's art in a purely visual-interactive way, like how Baroque music is art, but in a purely technical way.
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Old 02-24-2013, 11:16 PM   #32
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Oh, we're doing this thread again then?

Obviously they're art. There's no argument to the contrary. You can argue that there's "art" games and "pop" games, but that's about as far it goes.
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Look at Shadow of The Colossus, Okami, or Bioshock and tell me you don't see and hear art.

I started playing Bioshock again the other day in anticipation of Bioshock Infinite and I stared at this dead body in a wheelchair in the Medical Pavillion for like ten minutes. It was gorgeous.

I think that if Roger Ebert had ever played Silent Hill 2, he never would have made his dumbass comments. That series is rife with artistic metaphor.
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Old 02-24-2013, 11:22 PM   #34
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Of course Most are. A lot of programming (more than imaginable) goes into writing and developing games.
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There is absolutely no way it isn't art.

Some games definitely don't try to be artistic. They don't have good graphics, etc. I mean, look at a few Indie games. They're purposely using retro graphics, because it fits the game. I wouldn't call games like that artistic.
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Videogames have visual expression, music, and writing. And it is interactive. If anything, it's the most complete form of art. Games like Bioshock and Fallout even let the player express themselves.



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Some games definitely don't try to be artistic. They don't have good graphics, etc. I mean, look at a few Indie games. They're purposely using retro graphics, because it fits the game. I wouldn't call games like that artistic.


You have that the wrong way around. Making a decision about the design based on the content is a very artistic idea.
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Guitars are made with wood, not code. IMO real art is of nature and cannot be made with 1s and 0s.


I must admit, I hate it when I'm taking a stroll through a national park and I trip over one of Da Vinci's masterpieces.... It just ruins my day, but to be expected because nature is just lousy with priceless pieces of art.
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Some games definitely don't try to be artistic. They don't have good graphics, etc. I mean, look at a few Indie games. They're purposely using retro graphics, because it fits the game. I wouldn't call games like that artistic.

Art can't be minimalist?
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