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Old 02-26-2013, 11:57 AM   #21
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If you are going for Electric wizzard tone, I'd suggest a fuzz pedal, you might want to look at Boss FZ-2, which I believe is what Electric Wizard used at their first albums. As far as amp goes, Laney GH100 will do the job just fine. But mind you, that Electric wizard "dark tone" comes from their bass tone, which compliments the guitar.

This. I'd also look at the Laney AOR100 since that's what Liz uses.
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Old 02-26-2013, 12:18 PM   #22
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ISP Vector SL. It's a 600 watt active subwoofer for your guitar. http://www.musiciansfriend.com/ampl...uitar-subwoofer
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Old 02-26-2013, 07:21 PM   #23
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ISP Vector SL. It's a 600 watt active subwoofer for your guitar. http://www.musiciansfriend.com/ampl...uitar-subwoofer


WOW haha. A bit (or a lot) out of my price range, but I'm sure that would do the trick.
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Old 02-26-2013, 07:23 PM   #24
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i read doom a little different than i thought you described. and i will be honest i didn't look at the video until after. i for some reason was thinking more of like a deathcore than doom and was kind of sidetracked.

i love old sunn amps. hotdamn.


I'm not looking to play pure Doom. I just want a tone in that realm that has the gain and loads of bass. I know a bassist would be ideal, but I want to recreate a decent high-bass sound with just myself and a drummer.
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Old 02-26-2013, 07:25 PM   #25
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Yeah if you like kranks try Stiff Amps. Im not getting paid by them. I just really think these amps need more credit. There just revoiced and improved models that Tony made for Krank. The Dirthead would be the one i would recomend for you. $500 for the 20w and 600 for the 50w and 900 for the 100w as of last month it might change. All the gain and eq balance to find the best tone possible. And lowend for days!!!!! Hope you find your tone bud! Good luck!
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Old 02-26-2013, 07:32 PM   #26
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if you can find a Peavey Ultra they have tons of bass. the eq is active so you can boast the bass. as mentioned for electric wizard a fuzz is needed. i recommend a DOD Fuzz as they put out a heavy distortion sound with plenty of bass.
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Old 02-27-2013, 08:45 AM   #27
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sorry but, its not the amp dude,

its the cabinet, get a dual rectifier and a hughes and kettner CC412B and you will shit your damn pants.

I have carvin legacy and it sounds like a switched heads from my USA carvin cab and my avatar, and those are good damn cabinets.
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Old 02-27-2013, 08:55 AM   #28
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What he said.

If you want to get serious about it, use an octave pedal and play through bass & guitar rigs simultaneously. Look at some 15s & 18s, too.
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Old 02-27-2013, 06:15 PM   #29
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i would like to see a demo of this...

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Here's one.


i am not sure if you didn't understand or just don't know what you are thinking.

i was refering to one doing doom metal. it won't do it. i was jesting sarcastically.

honestly did you hear the demo? that isn't 5153 kind of tone.
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Old 02-27-2013, 06:22 PM   #30
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Mesa Dual tripple are 2 of the most bass heavy amps that are made.

I agree that your cab/speakers will have a huge impact. To me it seems that the Celestion G12h30 or clones are the best type of speaker for doom/stoner.

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All great for doom/stoner
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Old 02-27-2013, 06:38 PM   #31
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It's already been said, but that tone is from a full band with a bass guitar. You'd be hard pressed to replicate that tone with a guitar alone.
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Old 02-27-2013, 06:55 PM   #32
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It's already been said, but that tone is from a full band with a bass guitar. You'd be hard pressed to replicate that tone with a guitar alone.

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My band is pretty heavy (kinda mastadon/ASG type sound, and I use quite brite settings: Bass 7-8, Mids 6-7, Treble 8-9, Presence 4

The guitars sound pretty heavy, but they are still fully distinguishable from the bass. We play in D-standard and Drop C, but that is nothing when compared to all the guys tuning to god knows what now days
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My band is pretty heavy (kinda mastadon/ASG type sound, and I use quite brite settings: Bass 7-8, Mids 6-7, Treble 8-9, Presence 4

The guitars sound pretty heavy, but they are still fully distinguishable from the bass. We play in D-standard and Drop C, but that is nothing when compared to all the guys tuning to god knows what now days


I play in double drop d.
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I play in double drop d.

you are such a show-off

I love it when people ask what tuning I use in my hardcore/punk band and I tell them E standard and they give me a blank stare
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Old 02-27-2013, 11:42 PM   #35
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Use a POG2 and crank up the -1 and -2 octave sliders.
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Old 02-27-2013, 11:47 PM   #36
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if you can find a Peavey Ultra they have tons of bass. the eq is active so you can boast the bass. as mentioned for electric wizard a fuzz is needed. i recommend a DOD Fuzz as they put out a heavy distortion sound with plenty of bass.

The Ultra/XXX/JSX are very bright amps
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... with tons of bass for music similar to Doom metal,

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I'm wondering if I need to play through a bass amp, or some kind of combination of guitar amp and bass amp to get the low-end i'm looking for? ...

Triple Rec through EVM12Ls or stretch your budget and get a Thunderverb 200 which is very good for both guitar and bass, also through EVM12Ls.

Or, use your existing amp + a Traynor YBA200 + EV115.

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Old 02-28-2013, 01:10 AM   #38
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If you need doom metal tone with massive bass you need to go with Green amps.

That new Schecter amp has a subwoofer in it.

Not that a guitar, or for that matter a bass, outputs frequencies that low. I guess maybe it starts to make sense if youíre downturning a five string bass, but there arenít many people actually doing that.
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Old 02-28-2013, 01:26 AM   #39
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Run a fuzz pedal into a Fender Bassman type amp then have a 1x15" and a 2x12" should help.
Or just buy an octave pedal, take a split of your guitar signal to that then run that into a bass amp to fill up the low end.
I've done both during different phase of my band and they both work.
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If you need doom metal tone with massive bass you need to go with Green amps.

That new Schecter amp has a subwoofer in it.

Not that a guitar, or for that matter a bass, outputs frequencies that low. I guess maybe it starts to make sense if youíre downturning a five string bass, but there arenít many people actually doing that.


i do have to point out that 15"s can sound very good. i have a Randall cab that has 1x15" Legend +2x12" T75's (oddly i know the combination works though) i can run any amp on it and it sounds deeper than my other cabs. right now my nitro is on top of it and its bassy as hell.

15"s work well but you just need to have the right frequency resoponse. i am sure that an actual subwoofer would have a different frequency response, but the proper 15" can sound great on a six stringer.

i hardly EVER down tune. E std/ drop D. athough i do have two guitars in C#std (drop B), but they don't see near as much use.

i have two empty cabs that i built that are pretty much done after i get the speakers and decide what i want. one will be just a straight up 15" the other is big enough for 2x10"s but probably will be a large 1x12"
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