02-26-2013, 05:00 PM
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EMG sounds too thin - which pickups to help that?
hey guys
I have emg 81 in the bridge in DK2M and it sounds way too bright and thin. It sounds great in the mix but I don't really like the sound to be honest. I'd like to change the pickups, 85 in the bridge sounds too muddy and I guess I just dont like the actives. The music I play is metal like thrash metalcore death pretty much everything but I like Deep Purple and some Iron Maiden too so I don't always use that much gain. So I've been thinking about JB/59's . I'm looking for something to help that thin bright feeling that emg's give me. I've once played Gibson Flying V with stock pickups and it sounded way better, I mean this meaty full sound, than my dk2m with emg's. So is JB/59 a good choice? What would you put in? Low output is not a problem for me, I'm playing on 6505+ and I have some pedals if needed, but I actually like the clean or crispy sound of passives. thanks in advance  |
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02-26-2013, 05:09 PM
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Sauron Hates EMG's......
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Yay! Im not alone in thinking EMG's sound thin. Yay! Ok down to buisness. JB/59 is the best all around pickup combo. You just cant go wrong. Another combo i'd check out would be the Custom 5/59's. The custom just has a fuller sound to my ears. More geared towards harder rock.
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02-26-2013, 05:10 PM
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The Neighbor of the Beast
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My Dinky came stock with a JB/Jazz set and they are awesome in that guitar.
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02-26-2013, 05:41 PM
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Sauron Hates EMG's......
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Yes the Jazz is awesome! Jackson uses the hell outta that Pup. Dimarzio's are also a nice alternative. Such as the Evo, Super Distortion and Crunch Lab for the bridge. PAF, Liquifire and dominion for the neck.
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02-26-2013, 06:39 PM
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Duncan Distortion?
Blackouts?
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02-26-2013, 07:14 PM
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Sauron Hates EMG's......
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NO!...BAD...... Just kidding another great pickup. He allready doesnt like active's Blackouts are going to sound to similar. Yet warmer than EMG's the charactersitics that he doesnt like about actives are still gonna be there. Actives arent for every player either you like them or dont there very bland and lifeless. Great for players with walls of gain and lots of effects. I have never liked EMG's and i will fight people over why and they look at me like im an alien. Just because i play metal doesnt meen im going to go for actives. I prefer the warmer and flexability of passives and always will.
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02-26-2013, 08:13 PM
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Eltitnikufesin
Join Date: Mar 2011
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Like what has been said before, the JB/59 Combo is definitely a great choice. I had that put in my Jackson and the tone is phenomenal, especially when it's compared to EMG's.
The problem I have with EMG's is that they almost have an artificial sound to them, that when you hear them, you'll basically sound like everybody else, The whole name of the game is to find your own tone and style. Another thing is that they sound a little more scooped for my taste, and I like warm and colorful tones with a little more in the midrange department. All the suggestions have been great so far! |
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02-26-2013, 08:18 PM
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Lavatain
Join Date: May 2008
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Has no one else caught on to the fact that he's comparing the sound of a bolt on with maple neck and tremolo to a full mahogany bodied fixed bridge? I have two guitars with the JB/Jazz set, a Jackson KE3 and an Epiphone Explorer and they sound completely different. The epiphone's large body and fixed bridge give it this heap of warmth and thickness. I think that's your problem OP, more likely than anything else. Though pickups will make a bit a difference to thickness, I don't think that's the issue here.
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02-26-2013, 08:43 PM
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you know, there's a reason why so many guitarists use EMGs.... about the midrange thing, i have a 6505 and the thing oozes mids out of every pore so that counteracts the scoop on the emg. but i've had nothing but good experiences with active pickups
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02-26-2013, 08:46 PM
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The JB/Jazz combo sounds killer with my setup.
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02-26-2013, 09:02 PM
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I N T J
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MvAgusta, I'm very curious what amp you're using. Most of the EMGs I have/have had, from Basswood to Mahogany, 6 and 7 strings can easily do Cleans to **** you in the face.
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02-26-2013, 09:10 PM
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Bare Knuckles War Pigs, none more fat.
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02-26-2013, 09:23 PM
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Waco
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EMGs...57/66 set, hands down my fave new pups. And I agree with your assessment of the 81/85s completely. Seriously, check them out.
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02-26-2013, 09:28 PM
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I'm not one to recommend Bareknuckles, usually the opposite, but in this case I can't think of anything else that would suit better than a Warpig. The JB is not for everyone - definitely try before you buy. It can be absolutely horrible in certain setups.
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02-26-2013, 10:03 PM
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02-26-2013, 10:11 PM
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i don't agree with you about the EMG's but i do think the MV Agusta F4 is one the coolest bikes on the planet!!!
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02-26-2013, 10:24 PM
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02-26-2013, 10:39 PM
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The best bang for the buck IMO is the SD SH-6 matched set. I have these on my main SG. Setup right - with their volumes @unity, running both pickups with everything cranked- there's nothing heavier in the passive realm.
You'd be surprised how clean they can get too. http://www.seymourduncan.com/produc...istortion_mayh/ Last edited by 667 : 02-26-2013 at 10:42 PM. |
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02-26-2013, 10:54 PM
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Have you tried simply turning the guitar's tone control down a bit? EMG's pump out heaps of highs and need toning down a bit or else they sound, well, thin.
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02-26-2013, 11:25 PM
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Also, have you tried lowering your pups a little? I know people say to adjust your active pups as close to the strings as possible, but I find that when I do that with my Blackouts, it makes for an overly trebly/bright/harsh tone. (At least to my ears). So I adjust mine to about the same height as I would a passive pickup and they sound great to me.
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