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Old 02-28-2013, 07:43 PM   #1
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Difference between focus rite Scarlett 18i20 and 18i6?

I am selling my saffire pro 40 unfortunately since I haven't had a computer with a FireWire port for almost 2 years so it's just been sat doing nothing.
So instead I am looking into the USB version that came out recently.

Ones got 20 outputs, ones got 6, is there any other difference? Does the difference in outputs matter much? I can't even tell what the 20 outputs are, nevermind the 18 inputs. I'm not too good on all the logistics of recording equipment so sorry for sounding like a noob.
Is there a justifiable reason to get the i20 over i6? If estimates are correct I should be pretty much able to afford the i6 once pro 40 is sold but if it's worth choosing the i20 over i6 I'd rather wait and save and do it right the first time


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Old 02-28-2013, 08:02 PM   #2
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Wouldn't it just be easier to buy a firewire card and put it in your motherboard?
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Old 03-01-2013, 12:25 AM   #3
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Wouldn't it just be easier to buy a firewire card and put it in your motherboard?


Pretty much this

Though if for some reason you can't (Like a Laptop), the 18i20 is going to be exactly what the Pro 40 is but USB. I don't think you'd need the full 20 outputs for most home studio situations. I doubt you've got a shit ton of outboard EQ & Compressors to justify having 20 outs.

Though remember, with the 18i6, you've only got 2 mic preamps built in. So if you want to record more than 2 mics, you're going to have to invest in something like a Focusrite OctoPre in order to get more inputs.
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Old 03-01-2013, 05:42 AM   #4
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Wouldn't it just be easier to buy a firewire card and put it in your motherboard?


My laptop doesn't have space to add a FireWire card. My desktop computer broke ages ago. I'm not really in a position to buy a new computer, and I'd rather use a laptop so can record demos at practice.


Hmmm.... Sounds like I need the 18i20 as we wouldn't be able to mic up a drum kit with just 2 mics.
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I'm pretty sure the difference is just the I/O
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Biggest differences are that you get 6 more mic preamps, plus outputs for all 8 analogue inputs on the 18i20, you also get pads on channel 1 & 2, which is very important, since the Scarlett pres seem to run extremely hot and many people find their DIs unusable because of it. You also get a second headphone input and a Dim and Mute switch on the monitor control.

Overall, the 18i20 is WELL worth the extra money. Just basing off the preamps alone, you're paying $150 a preamp with the 18i6 and $62.50 a piece for the 18i20, not even including all the other added features.
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Old 03-02-2013, 09:32 AM   #7
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So that means I could easily mic up a drum kit, guitar and bass cabs and run vocals through and record all the same time?
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If you do 4 or 5 mics on drums, 1 on guitar, DI the bass & 1 for Vox then you're set.

I know this may seem like a lot of money but if you hold onto your Saffire Pro 40 & buy a 18i20, you can link the 2 together via ADAT and have 16 Mic Preamps in at 48khz. This gives you more than enough inputs to record pretty much anything. You could easily get by with the 8 for the Scarlett but if you're willing to spend the cash, go big.
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I don't have a FireWire port on laptop that's why selling.

Would it be easier to DI the bass rather than mic'in the amp?

Also, may sound a bit n00bish but could you say use all 8 inputs to mic the drum kit up and get it recorded on its own then use the same mic inputs to record everything over top?
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I don't have a FireWire port on laptop that's why selling.

He means plug the Pro 40's ADAT out into the 18i20's ADAT in (connected to your USB port). You'd be "daisy chaining" them both together, in a sense, so you could record 16 tracks at once. You don't need to use the Firewire on the Pro 40.
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Would it be easier to DI the bass rather than mic'in the amp?

Don't think I have ever mic'd a bass amp.
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He means plug the Pro 40's ADAT out into the 18i20's ADAT in (connected to your USB port). You'd be "daisy chaining" them both together, in a sense, so you could record 16 tracks at once. You don't need to use the Firewire on the Pro 40.


Ah I see. That's a very good idea. I can't afford to buy a second interface at minute. Will keep that in mind for the future when I am in a better position to build my studio gear (hopefully)


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Don't think I have ever mic'd a bass amp.


I've never recorded a bass myself, only ever really recorded full songs at a good quality in a studio
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I've never recorded a bass myself, only ever really recorded full songs at a good quality in a studio

Did they DI it in the studio? I think studio near here usually does DI, atleast the people I know that recorded there I think they said DI.

I run my bass through TSE BOD VSTi (until I get the real Sans Amp DI)
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Old 03-04-2013, 02:40 PM   #14
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Yeh i think it was DI. I used a POD rack for my guitar. This is going back a couple years when I was in my first band. Didn't really have a clue lol.
We just had a couple songs we wanted recorded that we're gonna make us our millions..........
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I picked up 2 18i20's today to record with 16 channels - even with the optical light cable these units would only work as 1 set of 8 inputs? has anyone successfully connected two 18i20's to record with? and how did you do it? - I am thinking that the kid at Guitar center had no idea and from what i am reading now - you must use octopre unit to add 8 more inputs? but there is no definate answer anywhere and i been all over Focsurites support site and nothing is mentioned on how or a schematic to see how you attach them? anyone got a clue on this?
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I picked up 2 18i20's today to record with 16 channels - even with the optical light cable these units would only work as 1 set of 8 inputs? has anyone successfully connected two 18i20's to record with? and how did you do it? - I am thinking that the kid at Guitar center had no idea and from what i am reading now - you must use octopre unit to add 8 more inputs? but there is no definate answer anywhere and i been all over Focsurites support site and nothing is mentioned on how or a schematic to see how you attach them? anyone got a clue on this?

What do you mean?

You should be able to hook up any ADAT preamp to the 18i20, you just need to engage the extra channels on the software mixer so it'll show up in your DAW.
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