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Old 03-09-2013, 01:51 AM   #1
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What do the masses think of the Ricky basses like what lemmy plays
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Old 03-09-2013, 02:04 AM   #2
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Apparently not much.

Neck Stringers and Dual Truss Rods are about all that it has contributed to the Design of the Bass.

Neck Through is not an important nor really new point of design really.

Tone wise. Geddy did all of his recordings on his Pre 65 Jazz.

Sure Lemmy and Rick James loved the Rick, McCartney playes it just a little, but that is about it to my recollection.

The fact is, it's adherants are few.
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Old 03-09-2013, 02:15 AM   #3
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Rics are a love / hate thing. Their tone is really distinctive and nothing sounds like a Ric but a Ric. However, that tone can be limiting in playing situations. Bruce Foxton made good use of it with the Jam as well as Chris Squire (Yes). I like the tone of a Ric myself.
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Old 03-09-2013, 03:02 AM   #4
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I had heard they had a sort of growl tone to them
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Old 03-09-2013, 03:54 AM   #5
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I've heard they can be terribly unreliable and hard to make adjustments to.
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Old 03-09-2013, 04:18 AM   #6
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What is that thing they have that goes around the strings from the pickup?
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Old 03-09-2013, 04:32 AM   #7
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Cliff Burton used a Rickenbacker 4001.
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Old 03-09-2013, 08:25 AM   #8
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Read the title of this thread and thought it was going to be a thread about Rick copies.
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What do the masses think of the Ricky basses like what lemmy plays

Terrible basses made by a terrible company owned by a terrible person.

Buy one and you can join the Terrible Club too!

Seriously, they're poorly designed one-trick-ponies with an artificially high price due to them SUING any possible competitor.

Go on eBay and find a Tokai, Anniversary, Ibanez or any other copy. Same bass for a fraction of the price.

(The fact that Lemmy and Cliff Burton used them is a warning to any self respecting bass guitarist.)

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Read the title of this thread and thought it was going to be a thread about Rick copies.

We'd all be getting sued if that were the case.

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Old 03-09-2013, 10:49 AM   #10
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I'd like to think that every bassist goes through a phase where they really want a Rick, but over time we all realize that you can get much better basses for less money.
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Read the title of this thread and thought it was going to be a thread about Rick copies.

Same here!
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Old 03-09-2013, 12:48 PM   #12
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Chris Squire was playing Tobias last I saw.

So even he has moved on.

All others are dead or moved on. Except Lemmy
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Chris Squire was playing Tobias last I saw.

So even he has moved on.

All others are dead or moved on. Except Lemmy


There are plenty of people still using Ricks even now. Chris Taylor of Grizzly Bear, Chris Wolstenholme and shitloads of other musicians, predominantly in the indie rock scene. A lot of other bass players I play with use Ricks. I'll be buying a 4001 this year for that exact purpose.
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Old 03-09-2013, 09:51 PM   #14
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Good luck finding a copy on eBay. Sellers of 30+ year old copies without the name Rickenbacker anywhere either on the bass or the listing have been sent Cease and Desist letters and been threatened with legal action. However there is someone on Talkbass right now trying to sell a Kay shortscale copy if you're interested in one.

I like their sound personally, but not enough to pay thousands for one. Well, I say that but... I once heard a live Motorhead set being streamed live and absolutely hated Lemmy's tone at the time. So I guess I should say that I like their -clean- sound.
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Old 03-09-2013, 11:34 PM   #15
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They look great but that's about their strongest feature, i'm going to agree with Paul Simonon who once said they "sound too thin". Don't get me wrong though, i'm sure they're amazing to own and would still grab one just to have a go for myself if they weren't so dam expensive.
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Old 03-09-2013, 11:54 PM   #16
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The bassist in electric wizard uses one and don't ask because I don't know his name
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Old 03-10-2013, 05:14 AM   #17
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Terrible basses made by a terrible company owned by a terrible person.

Buy one and you can join the Terrible Club too!

Seriously, they're poorly designed one-trick-ponies with an artificially high price due to them SUING any possible competitor.

Go on eBay and find a Tokai, Anniversary, Ibanez or any other copy. Same bass for a fraction of the price.

(The fact that Lemmy and Cliff Burton used them is a warning to any self respecting bass guitarist.)


We'd all be getting sued if that were the case.

+1, normally I'd be a bit more civil about it but whatever, I can't put it any more eloquently then that. So yay for being contemptuously bitter about them!

Opinion: Some people like Ricks, good on them, they're free to spend money (and a lot of it) on them. Almost every Rick I've tried has ranged on a spectrum from disappointing to miserable, 4003's, 4004cii's, the whole lot. The only one I've played I would consider bearable was a 4001 that was beat to hell and back, I'm pretty sure the neck was shaved, and it was so gutted that it's only real common point with other Ricks was it's shape. Not a nice sound, uncomfortable design, and I cringe every time I see a picture of one of those bridges lifting.

Oh yeah, and the suing and all that jazz too.
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What is that thing they have that goes around the strings from the pickup?

Pickup cover. You can also see them in other basses like Jazz Bass:

Though I have heard that many people don't like them and take them off. They look cool but kind of limit your playing. It makes it harder to pick the strings.

Here is a demo of how a Rickenbacker sounds like:

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Terrible basses made by a terrible company owned by a terrible person.

Buy one and you can join the Terrible Club too!

Seriously, they're poorly designed one-trick-ponies with an artificially high price due to them SUING any possible competitor.

Go on eBay and find a Tokai, Anniversary, Ibanez or any other copy. Same bass for a fraction of the price.

(The fact that Lemmy and Cliff Burton used them is a warning to any self respecting bass guitarist.)


Wow, that's bitter even for you.

Ricks are good basses, I for example can't stand Fender in any capacity whatsoever, but they make a decent bass. Just because you don't like the ethics of the company, doesn't mean to say its a bad product. I personally would always buy a Rick over a Fender (although I would always pick a Gibson or Ibanez over either....), because I prefer their products, tbh I could not care less about the company's morals and ethics.

Overpriced one trick pony is also just a matter of opinion, and essentially the same as why I don't like P-basses. Yet again, doesn't make it a bad product.

Also, why all the hat against Lemmy?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
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After watching that video, I think the recording I heard must have had effects applied afterall. I've never bothered looking other recordings up because I've never intended to buy one, partly because I wouldn't have much use for it and partly because I don't much like their business practices either. That one does sound a little thin on its own. The recording I heard was very similar but sounded a lot fuller that that. Could have been mislabelled too I guess.

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Ricks are good basses, I for example can't stand Fender in any capacity whatsoever, but they make a decent bass. Just because you don't like the ethics of the company, doesn't mean to say its a bad product. I personally would always buy a Rick over a Fender (although I would always pick a Gibson or Ibanez over either....), because I prefer their products, tbh I could not care less about the company's morals and ethics.


I look at the morals and ethics of a lot of companies. If people carry on paying them thousands they're never going to change. If they start losing money they might rethink it a little. C&D letters might all have the same standard wording, but I've read many reports about very rude and unhelpful employees. Manners don't cost anything and there's really no excuse for it.

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Also, why all the hat against Lemmy?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?


I just don't like his tone.
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