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Old 03-13-2013, 07:03 PM   #1
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Seeking TREMOLO PEDAL with One or Two 12AX7 PreAmp Tubes

Hi! Am seeking one last pedal for my amplifiers.
Please share your opinions on True Analog Tremolo Pedals. Thank you


Seeking/Searching/Investigating =
An analog TREMOLO footswitch/pedal that has
one or two preamp tubes (12AX7 or 12**7 or whatever)
for DEDICATED TREMOLO, not vibrato. A true analog tremolo pedal.

Anybody have experience with:
1) Electro Harmonix Wiggler
2) Effectrode Delta-Trem Tube Tremolo
3) and expecially the Nady TTV-2


Reason for analog? Want that old surf/rockabilly vibe.
Digital Tremolo/Vibrato pedals all quite abundant.

So far, the above three are analog Tremolo pedals I have explored.
They each have two (2) 12AX7 tubes installed.

PLMK if you like or dislike any/all and why?
Also, will be very happy to investigate any suggested true analog tremolo pedals.
Looking to purchase by June 2013


Thanks for any experiences or shares. Toppscore

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Old 03-13-2013, 07:28 PM   #2
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I get analog, but why with tubes? No tubes =/= Digital.

Young Pedals The Looker / Fulltone Supa Trem would do the job pretty damn well.
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Old 03-13-2013, 07:38 PM   #3
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Old 03-13-2013, 10:00 PM   #4
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Sorry, no exp with tube tremolo fx but I will say the Strymon Flint is amazing and can definitely nail the sound you're after.
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Old 03-14-2013, 01:17 AM   #5
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Very nice. Cannot locate one, and are high priced.
Liked the description sooooooo much, I added it to the above list.
Will keep the "Delta Trem" by Electrode on the "look-out" mode.
Thanks.

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Old 03-14-2013, 01:28 AM   #6
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I get analog, but why with tubes? No tubes =/= Digital.
Young Pedals The Looker/Fulltone Supa Trem would do the job pretty damn well.
From my studies, the tremolo pedals fall into three categories:
1) All Digital
2) Digitally designed Analog
3) Analog

In my opinion, most all tremolo pedals will to an darn good job.
Not seeking a "darn good job".
Simply seeking 12AX7 or 12**7 preamp tube based true analog Tremolo pedal.


IMHO, the Tremolo (volume) and Vibrato (pitch) tones are derived from
different design circuit sources. The Tremolo from true analog 12AX7
preamp tubes is real analog and is similar towards 1960s Fender tube amps.

Digital can sound fine. Think of all the modeling amps, preamps, effects
and pedals ~ all digital and all are readily available ~ and at low prices
to high prices. Analog is different and usually from medium to high pricing.

The Fulltone Supra Trem is not analog from tubes, but analog from a
digital designed circuit. Also, I'm not saying analog is better than digital
or digital is better than analog or one sounds better than the other.

I've decided to buy a 12AX7 or 12**7 based true analog tremolo,
simply to review and check it out. Thanks.

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Old 03-14-2013, 01:59 AM   #7
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Sorry, no exp with tube tremolo fx but I will say the Strymon Flint is amazing and can definitely nail the sound you're after.

Wow!!! The Strymon Flint and other pedals look hot and pricy.
Maybe next round when I upgrade. Thanks. Toppscore
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Old 03-14-2013, 02:13 AM   #8
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i have seen schematics around for a standalone tube tremolo unit. i will make one some day. i don't know whose the tremolo is replicating.

there are schematics of Fender tube reverb units as well (aware thats not what you are looking for), but cool. i will make on of those too.
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Old 03-14-2013, 08:50 AM   #9
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Replicate a T-Rex Tremolo pedal
and a 1964 Fender Twin Reverb spring reverb unit
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Old 03-15-2013, 11:21 PM   #10
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OK. I want to thank all Ultimate Guitar members for their input. I purchased:

Boss TR-2 Tremolo new for $79.99 total


Decided to get new, quality, famous name, history of good reviews,
known for it's tone/sounds & reliability. I was intially seeking
12AX7 based tube pedals, but the one's I like are for my next budget.

Definitely will not give up on tube pedals. Will wait till I explore my current line-up
and have the budget for the best all tube tremolo pedal. Thanks again

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Old 03-16-2013, 08:39 PM   #11
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OK. I want to thank all Ultimate Guitar members for their input. I purchased:

MXR [Dunlop] M-115 Distortion III Overdrive/Distortion Pedal

I researched true analog distortion pedals with 12AX7 tubes, but could find nothing
desirable within my current $125/below price range. Therefore, decided to seek a quality
"Lower-end", name brand, resale-able well know famous, well tested tremolo pedal.

Paid on EBay $69.99 total for a Brand New Boxed MXR M115 Distortion III

This Ultimate Guitar REVIEW section rated MXR-M104 & MXR-M115 TREMOLO
pedals as the best of all the tremolos reviewed I found within the $125/below
price range. After checking YouTube for comparisions, the MXR-M115 is for me.

Definitely will not give up on tube pedals. Will wait till I explore my current line-up
and have the budget for the best all tube tremolo pedal. Thanks again


Ok...weren't we talking tremolo fx? Confused...
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Old 03-17-2013, 05:08 AM   #12
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Ok...weren't we talking tremolo fx? Confused...




You are absolutely correct

I purchased the Boss TR-2 Tremolo new for $79.99 total.


Also, I purchased:
MXR [Dunlop] M-115 Distortion III Overdrive/Distortion Pedal new for $69.95 total
Boss DD-3 Delay Guitar Effect Pedal new for $86.00 total
DigiTech HardWire DL-8 Delay Pedal near-new for $92 total

Got some help on these as well, and I like to thank all for their responses.
Thanks. Toppscore

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Old 03-17-2013, 05:14 AM   #13
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If you ask, "why two delays???"
Both were highly rated in the under $140 group of delays,
and the prices on these were extremely attractive.
Now get a chance to A-B them with my amps, then decide. Toppscore
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Ah ok, HNGD then. Have fun with the new fx.
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Old 03-17-2013, 01:06 PM   #15
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Digitally designed analog? WTF are you talking about and could you please refer me to your drug dealer.
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^Exactly what I was thinking
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Old 03-17-2013, 07:30 PM   #17
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wanted a 12AX7 trem pedal
bought a boss

Well you lost me there
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Old 03-18-2013, 01:16 AM   #18
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Quote:
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If you ask, "why two delays???"
Both were highly rated in the under $140 group of delays,
and the prices on these were extremely attractive.
Now get a chance to A-B them with my amps, then decide. Toppscore


what i ask is why two digital?

an analog delay and a digital would be better than two digital delays. much more utilitarianism.

but most certainly, HNGD!
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Old 03-18-2013, 02:39 AM   #19
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Digitally designed analog? WTF are you talking about and could you please refer me to your drug dealer.


Grumpy Old One . . . .
Talk to MXR and a trillion other pedal products:

Tell me how many analog tubes in the following MXR?
Dunlop MXR M169 - Carbon Copy Analog Delay Guitar Effect Pedal
Tell me it without a circuit board and any "hi-tech" chips with
design to emulate "analog".

Maybe I am wrong, Grumps, but I'll bet the inside circuit board
has programmed chips/ICs. Doesn't sound toooooo analog to me.
What do you think?
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Old 03-18-2013, 02:42 AM   #20
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wanted a 12AX7 trem pedal bought a boss Well you lost me there


Sorry to lose you. Gotta read up a bit.
"Definitely will not give up on tube pedals. Will wait till I explore my current line-up
and "have the budget for the best all tube tremolo pedal". Thanks again
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