naedauuf

I think people in this thread are overestimating the "damage" that spanking causes to kids, and also underestimating kids intelligence. Kids know what they're doing is bad, they know why they're spanked. A kid doesn't punch the dog and get spanked and go "BUT WHY". They aren't handicapped.

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Dregen

i don't have a problem with it per se. but i wouldn't do it. i remember too many times when i was a kid (up till like age 11) where my parents would get into a rage and spank me with a thick leather belt, or if that wasn't found kitchenware was used.

sometimes it was due to disobedience and deserved, but other times the punishment would faaar exceed the situation or wasn't necessary at all. like my mom spanked me with "the belt" (pretty much the fear-mongering phrase of the house) because i kept falling off my bicycle when i was learning how to ride without training wheels. she told me i was in trouble and we went inside and she punished me. also when we'd go out to the farm, if i didn't get into the vehicle fast enough or i was lagging a little behind my father would kick my ass hard with his steel-toe boot. among other shit, there's lots more.

i also vaguely recall my sister also got spanked so much and so hard that she bled. this was for going over to the neighbor's (her friend's) house when she wasn't supposed to. she also got beat once by my mother because she caught her making out with some other guy and told my father. what else would you expect an 8 year old to do, goddamn...

after it all, i'm pretty fucked up now emotionally, and my sister is becoming almost a carbon copy of my mother. in all her weird, twisted reactions and emotions. my little brother, who was probably punished the least, is probably the least messed up out of all of us. don't know if it's coincidence and both me and my sister got our mother's genetics (ADHD, depression, potentially bipolar). or if was the childhood shit.

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nail em up i say. nail some sense into them.

captaincrunk

people who are opposed to spanking that are pro-circumcision are stupid

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naedauuf

See THAT'S taken way too far. You don't spank a kid for not learning how to ride a bike. That is a good example of what real physical abuse can do to a person (no offense).

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Don't stop there, I'm dying to hear the punchline! There's got to be some sort of tortured linkage that I'm just not seeing...

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Tanglewoodguit

Ah, typical sensationalist liberal agenda. I love UG!

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captaincrunk

but what if the kid is like really annoying?

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Todd Hart

And oddly tend to be the same people who are against government restrictions on firearms but for the government's right to provide the death penalty.

Whole lotta oxymorons on this board.

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crazysam23_Atax

You ever try to explain to a child under the age of 7 that they did something wrong? If you just talk to them, they don't see wrong things as wrong because it may be harmful to them or others. If you tell a 4 year that running out in the street is bad because they might get hit by a car, they have zero idea why that is bad.

You don't have to spank them, per se. But assuming you can JUST talk to your kids is naive. Punishment of some form (whether it be spanking or taking away toys/privileges) is something that reinforces negative consequences to a child.

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sorry to hear that
I don't think my parents ever went overboard, probably because my dad's pretty lenient and doesn't get angry easily, and my mom was abused as a kid so she tried not to be like her parents. Never got a belt, just the wooden spoon. They got one spoon from some missionaries in Africa that they knew, and we called it the african negro spoon.

edit: They'd also usually count to three or whatever before they spanked us, so if they actually got there and we hadn't stopped whatever we were doing we were basically asking for it.

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guitarmaniac88

I don't know of anyone here that is opposed to spanking and pro-circumcision.

Being against governments restricting firearms and supporting the death penalty aren't oxymorons in the first place.

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Wolfinator-x

I was spanked as a child on a few occasions.

Not nearly as much as my brother but still.

I think my parents did a good thing, because any non-physical yet adequate punishment would just make me go "meh".

Then again, I probably wouldn't be a huge square today

EDIT: On circumcision, my parents also got me circumsized (albeit as a four-year old and for a health issue) and I'm totally cool with it. Actually I think I'd rather be this way.

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supersac

i got spanked but it was usually when i did somethign stupid (tyring to make my own firewokrs ) it was usually reinforce to the dont do that because its dangerious stupid

i was never really badly behaived but i could see how spanking can be used to teach discipline

like shocking a mouse to teach it not to do somehting is how spanking should be used but it should never be the first thing not should it be overused and should probably be the last resort to an unruly kid


edit: i doubt id spank my kids much if at all but they sure as hell will know that i would spank them if they did anything stupid

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I spank my bitches and none of them ever complain

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FearMyLightning

Hell spanking isn't even effective anymore. If my kids fuck up it's 5 belt lashes for each thing they did.

Wolfinator-x

Even though spanking was effective in disciplining me, I have to admit I at first had the misconception that it's OK to hit someone if you're mad, and that's why my parents hit me.

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Dregen

you don't have to be sorry dude. i can't really remember a whole lot when i was a kid anymore, i'm pretty sure besides all the other stuff that there was also a lot that was necessary. sometimes it got to borderline abuse (in my sister's case it was though), but i've heard a lot worse than my situation.

my parents did something similar, the counting thing. and my mother was also abused a lot when she was a kid. her father was an alcoholic, and when he got angry you faced his wrath. she told me that he would sometimes use a broken television cable with the wires sticking out. or a belt or corn stalk, whatever was in hand. not to mention alongside that she was sexually abused multiple times by her brother (who also ended up molesting my sister too later on) and one of her father's friends. looking at all of this, i don't blame my mother for her problems. she went through some really rough shit.

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