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Old 03-19-2013, 01:50 PM   #1
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Evertune bridges. Best thing since sliced bread?

I've been doing a little research on these since seeing them featured in a few youtube videos and I've noticed them popping up more and more. I just don't know how to feel about this bridge system because of all the little springs and moving parts and such. I guess I'm a less is more kind of guy but can this thing really be the guitar's reckoning?

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Old 03-19-2013, 02:03 PM   #2
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sliced bread = way overrated.



on topic though, do the guitars have to be routed out? i got to 4 min and bailed.
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Old 03-19-2013, 02:08 PM   #3
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on topic though, do the guitars have to be routed out? i got to 4 min and bailed.


Yeah, all guitars that have to be retrofitted need a huge amount of work. Which is why I'm skeptical because all the guitars featuring them factory installed are $1000+
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Old 03-19-2013, 02:24 PM   #4
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I've seen them on some custom guitars from big names out there, and if it's good enough for Satriani, it's good enough for me!
They are installed by specialized tech's, so I guess that your guitar will be ok in their hands.
So far I haven't heard anyone complaining yet.
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Old 03-19-2013, 02:46 PM   #5
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I think it's a really cool technology and apparently it works very well. I just don't really see this as a viable replacement bridge, the cost is very high and it's a pretty intrusive modification to fit it to your guitar. It looks like it would cost $500+ to buy & have one installed on your guitar.

They do sell guitars with the bridge installed on their website, and the prices seem to be pretty decent (especially considering the cost of the bridge/installation). http://www.evertune.com/evertuned-guitars-for-sale-3/
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Old 03-19-2013, 02:59 PM   #6
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"No complaints" is kind of a weak argument for something that barely anyone owns. The fact that a bunch of pros 'use' (read: own) it doesn't tell me anything, other than that maybe they're getting it for free and are willing to try anything new and interesting.

This same thing happened with AxCent a few years ago - Jimmy Page had one, Van Halen had one, Joe Perry had one, but as it turns out it was stupid expensive and you had to route out half the guitar, and even when Gibson made a cheaper version and built it into their production guitars they couldn't give the things away. And everyone at the time thought, oh god, this is the future of the guitar, kids will never learn how to tune an instrument, your guitar is going to stop working halfway through a gig for a software update, etc etc - and it never happened. So I don't put much stock in the "X guy uses it, I've only heard good things" for a product that nobody's ever used in the wild before.

On the other hand - LTD is coming out with an Evertune EC-1000, and it's not that expensive. Hopefully they'll start showing up at Guitar Centers so people can try them out. I think it's an interesting idea and if they got the execution right it should be a great product.
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Old 03-19-2013, 04:09 PM   #7
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I think that Evertune is a cool little invention.
Played a couple of VGS guitars with those installed in a shop when testing amps and stuff.
It's cool because you can be pretty sure that the guitar is in tune, which most of the other guitars in the shop were not.

Anyway, I thought it was a cool feature and it really didn't feel weird to play on or anything, so basically I say it's cool.

Would it be the main selling point for me when buying a new guitar though?
Nope.
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Old 03-19-2013, 04:09 PM   #8
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I think the robot tuning system is more effective than this but they are both trying to fix a problem that doesn't need to be fixed. tuning is important for developing ones ear musically
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Old 03-19-2013, 04:20 PM   #9
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I think the robot tuning system is more effective than this but they are both trying to fix a problem that doesn't need to be fixed. tuning is important for developing ones ear musically



I dont think these are meant for your everyday bedroom guitarist, but for professionals dragging their instruments from gig to another and worry if their guitar goes out of tune between or during gigs.
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Old 03-19-2013, 04:44 PM   #10
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Seems like a very expensive alternative to learning how wind strings and set up your tremolo properly.
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Old 03-19-2013, 06:20 PM   #11
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I dont think these are meant for your everyday bedroom guitarist, but for professionals dragging their instruments from gig to another and worry if their guitar goes out of tune between or during gigs.

It seems like these things are being marketed to everyone, but they really do only seem practical for a touring guitarist. For a bedroom player and recording, it seems like a huge hassle and a serious waste of money.

And I hope all of the people that hate Floyds aren't supporting these things because they look to be much harder to setup.
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Old 03-19-2013, 06:59 PM   #12
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Yeah, all guitars that have to be retrofitted need a huge amount of work. Which is why I'm skeptical because all the guitars featuring them factory installed are $1000+

yeah screw that then. i'll stick to the usual suspects.
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Old 03-19-2013, 07:04 PM   #13
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Old 03-20-2013, 01:48 AM   #14
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And I hope all of the people that hate Floyds aren't supporting these things because they look to be much harder to setup.

I support these things fullly. If I had the money I would buy the MH1000 they are advertising on preorder that comes with this.

Also here is Keith Merrow using,abusing, restringing his. Looks pretty simple.
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Old 03-20-2013, 02:33 AM   #15
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Old 03-20-2013, 10:33 AM   #16
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Seems like a very expensive alternative to learning how wind strings and set up your tremolo properly.

You do realize Evertune isn't a tremolo right? It's a fixed bridge which keeps perfect tuning.

Advantages:

- strings will NEVER go out of tune because their tension is equalized by spring tension, even if the neck moves, you bash the headstock, humidity changes, you tug hard on the strings, etc.
- string changes are very fast because no string stretching is required and you can tune without requiring any sort of fine-tuning, as the springs will "lock" in place when you get to the general vicinity of required tension

Disadvantages:

- cost
- possibly looks
- maybe don't want to install it on an existing guitar

I agree with what some others are saying in that this is a bridge fully targeted at professional musicians whose gear gets tortured by the road and gigging conditions, not your average home player. A well-made guitar strung properly shouldn't be going out of tune anyway unless you do something stupid, and in that respect there's nothing wrong with existing options. But, in the studio, where you want tuning to be identical between tracks and songs, or when you don't want to have to set up your guitar after getting to every venue? Evertune is a pretty great solution.
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I think it looks great. Fantastic, actually. Way better than the insubstantial look of a plain jane wilkinson bridge and much better than the cluttered mess of a floyd. Looks clean and elegant, almost. If i can find one, im snagging it.
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Old 03-20-2013, 12:27 PM   #18
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I want to find something he won't shill. I don't care what, just something. I want to go down in the history books as "that guy that found the one product Chappers badmouthed."

Anyhoo.

I've tired a guitar with an Evertune system. I stress, one guitar. I wouldn't like to pass judgement on the system just yet.

However, for what little it is worth, that one guitar didn't seem to hold tune any better than a typical locking/fine tuning system, the tone was more brittle than one of those 2TEK bridges, I've never heard a guitar with less sustain on open strings and it felt very uncomfortable under the hand. All of which lines up with my theory (stress: my theory) that the simpler you make the bridge the fuller tone, sustain and plain comfort you get (god bless tune-o-matics); the more complicated you make it, the more you lose.

I usually like to try something three or four times before writing it off (exception: Stetsbar, **** that mess), but so far I'm 1/3 in and it's not looking good.

And yes, personally I'd rather go with a Robot, Mini-E Tune or even that Peavey auto-tune guitar thing. Hell, gimmie a JTV Variax.
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At this point in the game, adoption just seems to be the issue. I don't think I'd ever want to replace route an existing guitar for this bridge, unless it was some really pricey guitar that would make a 500+ dollar install worth it. So that pretty much leaves the manufacturers in a position where they need to start offering evertune models. Everything I've heard and seen about these looks great and the setup isn't hard at all, no harder than a Floyd (which still bugs me because I prefer setting up a Floyd to a regular fixed bridge myself), so the added benefit of the system looks great. I just wish they could build a model that would fit as a drop in for existing trem cavities, though that would appear pretty difficult to pull off, especially with all of the mechanical gizmos they have going on in there. Very cool though, and any new device that offers such stability is a plus in my book.
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I support these things fullly. If I had the money I would buy the MH1000 they are advertising on preorder that comes with this.

Also here is Keith Merrow using,abusing, restringing his. Looks pretty simple.

Kieth didn't do a setup on it, he swapped another set of the same exact strings. He even says that in the video. Have you seen the back of a guitar with this bridge?



Yeah, if you dislike setting up a Floyd, then you're gonna hate this thing.
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