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Old 03-26-2013, 12:28 AM   #1
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NAD: EVH + Line 6 = UNLIMITED POWWERRR!

I'd been looking for an amp with great versatility and I found one in the Dual Rec Tremoverb. However, I wasn't quite satisfied yet so I kept looking. I picked up an EVH 5150 50w head and a pair of 1x12 cabs.





This amp is amazing. The clean channel is Fendery, the rhythm channel is pure sex, and the lead channel is beast. There is way more gain on tap than is needed, especially on the lead channel. For now I'm keeping it dialed pretty well back on both channels.

All channels clean up quite well with the guitar's volume knob. Tone-wise, I don't think this amp is lacking anything really. It can go from jazzy cleans, to chugga-chugga with no problem at all. It can also do a sweet just-broken up bluesy tone, Texas blues, and classic rock with ease. Again, I don't think there's any genre it couldn't pull off at least well, and could do most VERY well IMO. The clean channel also takes distortions and ODs very well. However, there's not much need for that since the other two channels have such good sounding gain, but to each their own.

It has quite a few features I really like. The pedal is simple and solid; it switches channels more seamlessly than I've ever seen on any amp. There's a headphone jack (haven't needed that yet), and a preamp out which could come in handy for a wet/dry rig I guess...may try that with the Tremoverb at some point. The EVH is also controllable via MIDI and at first I didn't realize just how awesome that would be.

You see the pedals in the pic, but the only things connected to the EVH right now are the M13 and the M5. I swear Line 6 gets a crap reputation in large part because of the Spider amps, but these units are incredible. The more I use them, the more I love them. Super easy to use and the effects are excellent. Even the distortions, the weakest of the M-effects, are actually quite good. For example, the Screamer does a damn good job tightening the rhythm and lead channels up well just like you'd expect it to. And because of the M13's design, I can have multiple screamers with different settings ready to go if I want. And that's just the tiniest tip of the iceberg.

The one drawback of the EVH is the very noticeable volume jump when you switch between the clean and rhythm channels. If you've read about it before, I promise it's not been exaggerated. However, with my M13/M5 setup I completely eliminated this problem.

The M13 is my "master" controller. When I select a scene (preset) on the M13, it changes to the appropriate amp channel and also engages a preset on the M5. Whenever I select a scene that uses the clean channel, the M5 comes on with a 6-band EQ set to +6.3 db across the board. When I select a rhythm or lead channel preset, the M5 switches to something else (or off depending on what I want).

The setup (4CM btw) pretty much allows me to have any pedal configuration I want, with the limitation being I can only use 5 pedals at one time (4 on the M13, and 1 on the M5). That's not much of a limitation though...rarely would I ever need more than that at once. If I do though, I have a couple other pedals I could toss in the mix if I needed. Also, I can set each scene so that I can choose how many pedals are in front of the amp and how many in the loop. There's also a gate on the M13 that is set per scene and I find it pretty effective. The same gate exists in the M5.

I wanted versatility and simplicity. Well, the rig is easy to use...much easier than the HD500 was. More importantly the versatility is OFF THE F***ING CHARTS!

If you have any questions, feel free to ask.

P.S. I got my NAD thread up before Zucky who received his amp before me. He's a damn slacker.
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Old 03-26-2013, 12:33 AM   #2
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Old 03-26-2013, 12:39 AM   #3
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What the shitting ****. I was literally thinking about this exact setup for my next rig today while eating lunch.

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Old 03-26-2013, 12:47 AM   #4
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How good a clean sound are you getting at drummer levels? I've always found that 50W is pushing the friendship when it comes to cleans if your drummer is bigger than a spider monkey.
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Old 03-26-2013, 12:54 AM   #5
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Thanks guys.

Eppi, pull the trigger!

Cath, I'm not gigging (which makes that gear stockpile more than a little overkill) so I can't answer that very well, but I'll crank it up a bit to find out how loud it can get and stay clean.

EDIT: Just checked. It gets plenty loud clean on its own, but with the EQ in the loop it gets VERY loud. Still no drummer though so...
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Old 03-26-2013, 12:55 AM   #6
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Congrats!

Just curious, why not the 100W?

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Congrats!

Just curious, why not the 100W?



Thanks. Size, price, headphone jack, suitability for playing solo at home...And it's definitely capable of gig volumes.
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Old 03-26-2013, 01:34 AM   #8
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Old 03-26-2013, 01:45 AM   #9
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Sweet! I love the set-up.

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Old 03-26-2013, 02:20 AM   #10
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In case anyone is curious about the connections (which were probably the most complicated part of the whole rig lol):

Guitar > M13 input
M13 FX send > EVH input
EVH FX send > M13 FX return
M13 output > M5 input
M5 output > EVH FX return (so M5 is always last in FX loop)

M13 MIDI out > M-Audio 2x2 input A
M-Audio output A > EVH MIDI in
M-Audio output B > M5 MIDI in

Since the M5 is last in the loop, it's set as a reverb unless I'm using the clean channel of the amp, in which case it's the 6-band EQ and the M13 has the reverb.
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Old 03-26-2013, 04:10 AM   #11
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Most amps sound really loud until you put them next to a drummer. Drums are friggin loud.

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Old 03-26-2013, 06:49 AM   #12
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Most amps sound really loud until you put them next to a drummer. Drums are friggin loud.

HNAD all the same.

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Old 03-26-2013, 10:57 AM   #16
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Damn - that is one hell of 'home rig'

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Old 03-26-2013, 11:33 AM   #17
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You are certainly giving me GAS. As soon as I can sell a few more things I'll be picking up one of these guys. Hopefully withing the next month or so.

Also, you've got my ideal rig with the Silverburst LP coming out of a 5150iii.


Not sure if I missed it in your post but how does it play at low volumes? I'm in an apartment but I don't know how much I'd want to use a headphone jack.

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Old 03-26-2013, 03:29 PM   #18
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Thanks all!

You might be right Cath. I dunno. I've been to bar gigs where it was just a little Fender combo, drums, and bass and the guitar was fine in the mix. That's blues though. Might be different with heavier stuff where drummers tend to be more aggressive. If I ever find myself having issues I'd run both amps or maybe even grab another EVH head.

Zilat, it does really well at low volumes. One of the reasons I got it was a YouTube video. Look up "5150 Apartment" and you should find it.

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Nice amp.

What model is that guitar on the left?
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Old 03-26-2013, 07:53 PM   #20
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Very nice bro! Haven't explored the midi link with my rig yet but I'm glad you explained it...I've got more tinkering to do! I agree the 5153 and M13 combo is a great rig.
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