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Old 03-27-2013, 09:20 AM   #1
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Catch me up on metal amps

So a few years ago I was going to be in a metal band, like Obituary, Slayer, Entombed, What sort of budget amps are there out there, I know about the bugeras and stuff, I just sold mine, but may be joining a new band, so I want a cheap-ish/budget head for maybe around 300... if that's possible.


Any help would be great, don't need a cab, just a head at the moment
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Old 03-27-2013, 09:48 AM   #2
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Old 03-27-2013, 01:06 PM   #3
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What amps would you suggest for that slayer\obituary tone?
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Old 03-27-2013, 02:30 PM   #4
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Slayer used Marshalls. JCM800's I think.
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Old 03-27-2013, 03:04 PM   #5
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If you want the old school Florida Death Metal sound, look for an Ampeg VH140c. I bought a Crate GX130c (same basic circuit) for $100.

I have a Blackstar HT-5 for my practice amp. I use a Blackout Effector Musket for my dirt. I can cover just about everything heavy with it. From Entombed to Slayer the the Haunted. The Musket is a fuzz, but so much more. It's has it's own preamp and it can act as a traditional boost on up to a distortion pedal.

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Old 03-27-2013, 05:41 PM   #6
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Where can I pick up a GX130c in the UK?
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Old 03-27-2013, 05:52 PM   #7
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How well would the Peavey Vypyr Tube work for that sort of tone? just heavy
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Old 03-27-2013, 06:31 PM   #8
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Old 03-27-2013, 08:54 PM   #9
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I want this tone, but I wont have enough for a 6505... could I get it with other amps?
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Old 03-27-2013, 09:06 PM   #10
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^^You definitely need a Boss HM-2 to get that tone. Absolutely. It sounds like that through many amps, not just the 6505 (though, if you can afford it, I'd highly recommend a 6505 or 5150, they have a beast tone all by themselves, but different from that clip. I believe Entombed used HM-2s into solid state Peaveys for their distinctive tone. But I can get that tone with my 6505/Hm2 as well.
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Old 03-27-2013, 10:10 PM   #11
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I know I'll need the HM-2 for sure man, but.... would a cheap head do? haha, I'm asking some shops to see if i can go and test this out
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Old 03-28-2013, 06:51 AM   #13
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Well maybe it's not your thing, but it sounds so heavy live!
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Old 03-28-2013, 07:09 AM   #14
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Well maybe it's not your thing, but it sounds so heavy live!

It sounds heavy in person yes, but in a live situation you will get drowned out by everything else. This kind of tone is okay for studio use and practicing by yourself. Just don't plan on being heard at gigs. If there is one thing that I have learned through about tone is that mids are essential.
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Old 03-28-2013, 07:30 AM   #15
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What about bands like this?




They have the tone I want, they don't get drowned out.

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Old 03-28-2013, 07:33 AM   #16
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First video you posted sounds like turd to me, harsh highs, flabby bottom end and messy ammounts of gain. Why don't you buy another Bugera like the 6505 or Triple Rectifier copies? Or you could grab a Peavey Valveking perhaps.
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Old 03-28-2013, 07:37 AM   #17
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I'm gonna go try some amps out to get this tone, its not everyones cup of tea, but I love it
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Old 03-28-2013, 07:41 AM   #18
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The guitar's natural tone is in the mids, scooping them makes no sense. Let the bass take care of the low frequency and the cymbals take care of the highs. If a band has no mids then it is going to sound like muddy garbage. I used to think the exact same way as you do but i had to learn a hard lesson. It's all about how you sound in the mix.
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I'm gonna go try some amps out to get this tone, its not everyones cup of tea, but I love it

Don't get me wrong dude, i'm not trying to hate or anything. I actually like scooped mids every now and then when I am jamming alone, but in a band setting everything changes. I'm just tying to save you from some mistakes I made.
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Old 03-28-2013, 08:07 AM   #20
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The first band you posted is using a marshall of somekind and a Peavey VTM. VTM's are quite cheap secondhand
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