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Old 03-29-2013, 07:02 PM   #21
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Dude, just get a Boss MT-2 pedal. <$100 anywhere and everywhere and they sound awesome.

Especially on single coils! Great suggestion!
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Old 03-29-2013, 10:11 PM   #22
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Well, you could go the s/c sized humbucker route like a Hot Rails or you could get really hot s/c's. The Seymour Duncan Quarter Pound is extremely hot (13K with crazy big and powerful magnets) and very fat, almost P90'ish.
http://www.seymourduncan.com/comparetones/view/82

I have one in my tele. I'm playing slide on it, so not metal, but I do sometimes play slide on the hot channel of my amp (think mesa Mk2) and the thing just growls. If you actually want to do a s/c metal thing I'd go straight for the quarter pounder. Tony Iommi uses P90 and you'll get damn close with the QP. Slightly different tone but the same brutality.


Edit: But really, it's mostly about the amp. Use the wrong amp and it won't matter wtf pickups you have. Get the right amp and it hardly matters what pickups you have.
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I played metal from on a danelectro for years and I have seen metal players use strats a few times its not at all impossible. You might want a noise suppressor and add a little bit extra from a boost though.
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Well, you could go the s/c sized humbucker route like a Hot Rails or you could get really hot s/c's. The Seymour Duncan Quarter Pound is extremely hot (13K with crazy big and powerful magnets) and very fat, almost P90'ish.
http://www.seymourduncan.com/comparetones/view/82

I have one in my tele. I'm playing slide on it, so not metal, but I do sometimes play slide on the hot channel of my amp (think mesa Mk2) and the thing just growls. If you actually want to do a s/c metal thing I'd go straight for the quarter pounder. Tony Iommi uses P90 and you'll get damn close with the QP. Slightly different tone but the same brutality.


Edit: But really, it's mostly about the amp. Use the wrong amp and it won't matter wtf pickups you have. Get the right amp and it hardly matters what pickups you have.

It's not that the thing doesn't still sound heavy through the amp, it's just that I want something really hot, my Humbucker equipped guitar hits the thing so hard that it sounds like I'm running a compressor. the Set I'm looking at now has a 15k bridge and 13k middle, so I'm really thinking about it.
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Old 03-29-2013, 11:36 PM   #25
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I have the high gain amp, I just want the guitar to be a little hotter, I have a guitar with humbuckers and it does what I want. I just want the guitar to be a little hotter and less bright.
You just described a Quarter Pounder there.

You've got the Mk3 haven't you?
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You just described a Quarter Pounder there.

You've got the Mk3 haven't you?

Indeed so
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Especially on single coils! Great suggestion!


Oh?

My knowledge on all of this is admittedly limited. It's why I started posting on UG. I ask this out of pure curiosity...

Why would it be a bad idea to hook up a heavy distortion pedal to a single-coil pick-up? Is it simply because the classic background fuzz that a single-coil sends would be contributed to the distorted effect from the pedal?
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Oh?

My knowledge on all of this is admittedly limited. It's why I started posting on UG. I ask this out of pure curiosity...

Why would it be a bad idea to hook up a heavy distortion pedal to a single-coil pick-up? Is it simply because the classic background fuzz that a single-coil sends would be contributed to the distorted effect from the pedal?


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Old 03-30-2013, 08:56 AM   #30
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Oh?

My knowledge on all of this is admittedly limited. It's why I started posting on UG. I ask this out of pure curiosity...

Why would it be a bad idea to hook up a heavy distortion pedal to a single-coil pick-up? Is it simply because the classic background fuzz that a single-coil sends would be contributed to the distorted effect from the pedal?


It's mostly because the MT-2 sucks, tbh.

Hooking single coils up to a decent high gain pedal will give off much better results.

But that's not what TS is after.


My only question is are you looking full set or just for bridge?
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Old 03-30-2013, 09:04 AM   #31
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It's mostly because the MT-2 sucks, tbh.

Hooking single coils up to a decent high gain pedal will give off much better results.

But that's not what TS is after.


My only question is are you looking full set or just for bridge?

Full Set. The lil' Killers are in the lead for me now.

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It's mostly because the MT-2 sucks, tbh.

This, If I wanted to get all of my distortion tone from a pedal I wouldn't have just spent that much on a decent tube amp.
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Old 03-30-2013, 09:17 AM   #32
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death metal? hmm. i eould say you definitely need to find the right pickups. however, to get a decent hi gain tone sure. plenty of metal bands are using stacked humbuckers in their SSS strats.

seymour duncan has a decent selection. their hot rails are veryhot and bright, intense. i dont like them at all for general playing in place of a low output single coil, but i bet they would fare pretty well in a high gain application.
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Old 03-30-2013, 10:21 AM   #33
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death metal? hmm. i eould say you definitely need to find the right pickups. however, to get a decent hi gain tone sure. plenty of metal bands are using stacked humbuckers in their SSS strats.

seymour duncan has a decent selection. their hot rails are veryhot and bright, intense. i dont like them at all for general playing in place of a low output single coil, but i bet they would fare pretty well in a high gain application.

Not quite death metal, I'd say more power metal than anything.
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It's mostly because the MT-2 sucks, tbh.


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tube screamer and turn the tone knob down slightly. If you have a nice tube amp dime the level knob and put gain at about 9 o clock. Get a humbucker if you want, but that should suffice. dont get a boss mt2

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Haha I see my suggestion was unneeded... and I learned something.

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Full Set. The lil' Killers are in the lead for me now.


http://guitarasylum.com/index.php?/...e/flypage-2.tpl

If you can get the Lil' Killers in middle and neck positions, this should still be in budget. Can't think of anything more awesome for the bridge position.

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tube screamer and turn the tone knob down slightly. If you have a nice tube amp dime the level knob and put gain at about 9 o clock. Get a humbucker if you want, but that should suffice. dont get a boss mt2

If part of my problem is lacking low end, why would I get a pedal with a Bass Cut?


Also part of the reason I'm favoring the humbuckers plan is because I can't freaking stand single coil hum.
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