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Old 04-06-2013, 04:25 PM   #1
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Really quick question about latency

I know extremely little about electric instruments, so please forgive my ignorance... :]

I was just wondering... Does the length of the 1/4 by 1/4 chord from a guitar to an amp increase latency depending on how long it is?

I bought two 10 foot chords, but it turns out I really only need 5 foot ones. Is it worth sending these one back and ordering 2 5 foot chords, or does it not make a difference? (Or such an extremely small different that it is not noticeable?)

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Old 04-06-2013, 04:55 PM   #2
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Electric signals move really, really fast. To give you an idea of how fast it is, the transit speed in coaxial cables is usually measured relative to the speed of light. The change in latency caused by a longer cable won't be noticeable.
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Old 04-06-2013, 05:19 PM   #3
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Haha, alrighty then. Thanks!
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Old 04-06-2013, 07:26 PM   #4
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Pretty sure electrical signals move at about 60 - 80mph.
Point is still though, if they are good cables, then they shouldn't cause much latency anyway.
It'll be a few milliseconds you've added perhaps, certainly nothing more, but it really shouldn't matter much.
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Pretty sure electrical signals move at about 60 - 80mph.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Velo...ation#section_1
Where are you getting those numbers?
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Old 04-06-2013, 08:10 PM   #6
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Electric signals move really, really fast. To give you an idea of how fast it is, the transit speed in coaxial cables is usually measured relative to the speed of light. The change in latency caused by a longer cable won't be noticeable.

^This.

Side note You only really start to get latency when and the chain is like this
guitar > amp > air > microphone > ADC > DAW > (NOW RETURNING) > DAC > headphones. And it's mostly due to the digital-analog/analog-digital conversion thats going on.
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Old 04-06-2013, 08:37 PM   #7
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guitar > amp > air > microphone

The latency for this whole part of the signal chain will barely even exist, unless your mic is on the other side of a football field from the amp.

American or European football.
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Old 04-06-2013, 09:20 PM   #8
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American or European football.

What about Aussie Rules?
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Old 04-06-2013, 11:29 PM   #9
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The latency for this whole part of the signal chain will barely even exist, unless your mic is on the other side of a football field from the amp.

American or European football.

Not debating that but I was just referring to the whole signal flow in general.
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Old 04-07-2013, 04:44 AM   #10
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Awesome. Thanks for your help, guys.
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Old 04-07-2013, 03:41 PM   #11
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Pretty sure electrical signals move at about 60 - 80mph.
Point is still though, if they are good cables, then they shouldn't cause much latency anyway.
It'll be a few milliseconds you've added perhaps, certainly nothing more, but it really shouldn't matter much.

what?!
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So that's why my computer takes so long to start up!
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So that's why my computer takes so long to start up!

At that rate, we'd be measuring pings in hours instead of milliseconds. But at least I'd have an excuse for sucking at dota.
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