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Old 04-08-2013, 04:25 PM   #1
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Well What to get...?

I am looking to buy a new guitar, moving up from a crappy Squier Jr or something guitar... was looking at maybe a PRS, Gretsch Pro jet, Strat, maybe a Faded LP or Epi Tribute? Im going to get a good tube amp in a couple of months with a summer job of sorts, so it's not important right now to get... Need advice or suggestions to help me out, Thanks!

Budget? - 500-600 US dollars, maybe 650 if needed

Favorite Artists? - I like to play classic rock (Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd, ACDC, Boston), and also the Eagles + Allman Brothers type songs....

Preferences? - I like a simple enough look (Les Paul / strat / other nice guitar), nothing metal looking really though...

New or Used? - It doesn't matter, but whichever one is the best bang for buck works for me, as long as it's in good shape.

Location? - Starkville MS... so no Guitar center nearby, the local shop has poor selection

Current Gear? - a small solid state practice amp, acoustic guitar
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Old 04-08-2013, 04:37 PM   #2
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Depending on the amp that you have, you may consider upgrading that (or selling your old gear to increase your budget).

That's a pretty decent budget. My first thought is a used Gibson, maybe an SG or Studio LP.
You could also try out one of the VM Squiers or CV's, maybe an Epiphone G-400, and get a decent used amp. Used MIM Teles and Strats will leave you with some leftover cash, so that's an idea too.
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Old 04-08-2013, 04:52 PM   #3
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Location? - Starkville MS... so no Guitar center nearby, the local shop has poor selection


Don't let that deter you from using GC online- they have a decent return policy and a wide selection. Some used guitars worth looking at can definitely be found on their site, like:

Reverend Manta Ray, a semihollow with 2 P90s
http://www.guitarcenter.com/In-Stor...510-i2602020.gc

Godin Velocity, a solidbody HSS with tremolo
http://www.guitarcenter.com/Search/...=Godin+velocity
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Old 04-08-2013, 05:10 PM   #4
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I looked at that Manta Ray last night. They also have an orange Flatroc (drool).
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Old 04-08-2013, 05:16 PM   #5
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With your budget, if you bought both guitar and amp used, you could get a very decent amp (50to100W) and a very decent guitar.
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Old 04-08-2013, 05:23 PM   #6
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Would getting both now be better than picking up something like this later?

a used: Fender Hot Rod Series Blues Junior III 15W 1x12

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Old 04-08-2013, 05:33 PM   #7
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The amp will dictate your tone more so than the guitar, and that amp should do fine. How much of your budget does it eat up?
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Old 04-08-2013, 05:36 PM   #8
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maybe 100 or so.... could still swing like +-500
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Old 04-08-2013, 06:27 PM   #9
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Spend as much as you can afford on getting a good sounding amp.

Great guitar + crappy amp = crappy sound
Crappy guitar + great amp = sound will be crappy or better, maybe even good.
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Old 04-08-2013, 07:56 PM   #10
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If that amp is in good condition, I'd snag it for $100. They normally run $500+ new so that would be a good deal. Danny is right, a shitty amp will make a nice guitar sound shitty, there's nothing to do about it. The Blues Jr. series is nice, and the tube tone will play well with classic rock. Now, those don't have on board effects, right? Something else to think about is what kind of overdrive you'll want with the amp. You can control a certain amount of the amps gain with the guitar volume, but a pedal will make that easier.

That said, there are of course more expensive amps that will likely get you better sound.
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Old 04-08-2013, 09:24 PM   #11
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what kind of amp would you reccommend?
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Old 04-08-2013, 09:46 PM   #12
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For classic rock, and without blowing the budget, a used Vox AC15. However, a modeling amp may be a better fit if you want a variety of tone (not to say that the Vox is a one trick pony).

There's nothing wrong with that Fender though, especially at the price point.
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Vox or Fender would be my front runners. Carvin would be a good option, too.
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Old 04-08-2013, 10:32 PM   #14
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Here's a thought (as I prepare to be chastised), a Bugera V22. They're inexpensive even purchased new, and are built for vintage tone. They come with a foot switch for overdrive and reverb, so you could pretty much play any of the groups listed, and it only cuts into about 50% of your budget (though you can pretty much always get 15% off at Musicians Friend).

You'd get a loud little two channel tube amp for about $320 out the door.
With around $300 left over you could snag a Squier VM Telecaster Deluxe, and I'd say you would be off to a pretty solid start. This would eat up your budget, but you'd have a nice rig, capable of gigging, and should be able to use this stuff for a long time.

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Old 04-08-2013, 10:53 PM   #15
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is a Gretsch electromagnetic type guitar (like 500$) or a PRS SE better than the squier? It'd be worth the extra money to me if it would sound/play better, or even like, a MIM strat HSS
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Yes, in all probability. I've played a few Electromatics- pretty nice. And PRS generally makes a good guitar.
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Old 04-08-2013, 11:22 PM   #17
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Ok i think Ive got it figured almost out.... In your opinion, is the Bigsby Tremelo bar on the Gretsch worth an extra 100 dollars? , or the PRS around 50 dollars more? which one is the best value?
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Old 04-08-2013, 11:28 PM   #18
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is a Gretsch electromagnetic type guitar (like 500$) or a PRS SE better than the squier? It'd be worth the extra money to me if it would sound/play better, or even like, a MIM strat HSS


Either will be better than the Squier in theory, but I was putting it in context of you getting an amp as well.

I also go back to another idea. Why not look for a used SG? I'm not opposed to the other guitars you've mentioned, I've actually owned both a PRS SE and two Electromatics, and they're nice guitars, but have you checked the used SG prices?

Totally cool if you don't dig them, but it's an idea.
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Old 04-08-2013, 11:44 PM   #19
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like this one here? http://www.guitarcenter.com/In-Stor...494-i3054001.gc

is the faded noticably inferior to the regular SG?
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Old 04-08-2013, 11:55 PM   #20
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Exactly, that's something I would look at.
The faded has a different finish, not a high gloss finish as the standard would. There are other SG experts who may comment here, but that's actually a pretty good price for that guitar.
The SG is also a tough guitar, as in, a solid beast. I shall someday soon own one myself.
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