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Old 04-14-2013, 11:32 PM   #21
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When was the last time you saw a Jazz guitarist working feedback - just sayin'
Well controlled feedback is something I'm known for. It's an important part of my playing. I need good feedback (hence the 6x12) but I can't have microphonics screwing things up.
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Old 04-14-2013, 11:35 PM   #22
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true....my point was the dudes im referring to know there sh*t and go to the end of the earth yo find good stuff, not walk in to GC and buy something cause its whats there....

if you needed a good PAF, you wont find a better one than whats on those sites
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Old 04-14-2013, 11:42 PM   #23
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sheptone. i keep saying this cause they are incredible pups, nobody gives em love. i know many pro musicians, music majors, jazz guitarists that buy these things in a religious like following.
http://sheptone.com/landing.html

oh yeah, how about these guys?
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or these guys?
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bare knuckle...to win the popular vote. nobody believes poor ikey with the boutique suggestions.....sure buy a seymour duncan like every dude in guitar center



Well Bareknuckle are boutique pickups too, they became so successful and popular based on a good reputation for excellent customer service (talking to the company owner on the phone to discuss your pickup choice/specs) and pickups that were considered a step above the other aftermarket pickups. Bareknuckle may seem pretty mainstream today but just a few years back they were a small relatively unknown boutique company too.

People find it hard to take a risk on relatively unknown pickups though, your boutique suggestions may be the greatest pickups on the planet but the prospective buyer has to take a risk on the unknown or go with a pickup they will know for sure can deliver the goods.
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Old 04-14-2013, 11:59 PM   #24
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As I said earlier, a good pickup isn't always going to be low microphonics. I am talking about a specific parameter for a specific application. High volume intentional feedback.
Anything PAF like (I prefer a little hotter) will get me close enough to my tone for gigging so the sound quality doesn't matter as much, as long as they aren't shit. The deal is that they have to cope with that specific situation. If the best sounding pup in the world was microphonic in that situation it's of no use to me.
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Old 04-15-2013, 12:08 AM   #25
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I still fail to understand what you mean. A modern potted pickup should not be microphonic, what guitar are you using for this? How are the pickups mounted?
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Old 04-15-2013, 12:22 AM   #26
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It's a Yamaha SG. So identical to a Gibson Les Paul except for the shape.
Have you ever played in front of a really loud amp with a lot of speakers? Lots of pickups behave microphonically in that situation. As I said earlier, my guitar with the GFS pups is unplayable at that volume whereas my Gilchrist with EMG's I can hold right up to the speakers and all that feeds are the strings.
All of these guitar's pups are mounted to the body the same way. The Yammy is ok until I get closer to the speakers when I'm working the note.
I don't expect anything to be as good as the EMG's but I don't want EMG's playing some music. Some songs just need passive buckers - and they have different scale lengths. Also, I think that putting EMG's on a Yammy SG is a hanging offence. Really low microphonics would be wonderful. I could do what I do with my Gilchrist with my SG.
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Old 04-15-2013, 12:50 AM   #27
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true....my point was the dudes im referring to know there sh*t and go to the end of the earth yo find good stuff, not walk in to GC and buy something cause its whats there....

if you needed a good PAF, you wont find a better one than whats on those sites


So you think an obscure pick-up is better than a well known, be it DiMarzio or Seymour Duncan?

I don't get the point of not buying something that will work because it is sold at GC. Shit, didn't you just walk in one and buy the TC looper? Makes no sense.

Pearly Gate is a hot rodded PAF. It's exactly what he is after. They are potted. I have not tested mine with an amp on 12 though.
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Old 04-15-2013, 12:51 AM   #28
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Cath, I don't think this was a good thread to make here
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Old 04-15-2013, 12:52 AM   #29
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Well, what's stopping you? Turn it up. You only have to do it for a few seconds. By the time anybody picks up a phone to call the cops you'll have stopped. A Pearly Gates is at the top of my list. Crank it man and cats, dogs and little old ladies be damned.
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Old 04-15-2013, 12:53 AM   #30
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sheptone. i keep saying this cause they are incredible pups, nobody gives em love. i know many pro musicians, music majors, jazz guitarists that buy these things in a religious like following.
http://sheptone.com/landing.html

oh yeah, how about these guys?
http://www.riograndepickups.com

or these guys?
http://motorcitypickups.com

bare knuckle...to win the popular vote. nobody believes poor ikey with the boutique suggestions.....sure buy a seymour duncan like every dude in guitar center


Eh. My Sheps definitely feedback more than my Throbaks. Great pickups, but not what he's looking for.
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Cath, I don't think this was a good thread to make here


I can't even go past 2 on my metal amps with a drummer without being too loud. And thats in a large jam room. I'm not sure how Cath pulls off the fully cranked Marshall 900 think for a gig.

I just imagine peoples ears bleeding as they walk out of one of his gigs.




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Well, what's stopping you? Turn it up. You only have to do it for a few seconds. By the time anybody picks up a phone to call the cops you'll have stopped. A Pearly Gates is at the top of my list. Crank it man and cats, dogs and little old ladies be damned.



I'll let you know next weekend.
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Old 04-15-2013, 12:57 AM   #32
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They had to crank the drums up through the PA on Saturday. I wasn't even miked up.


Yeah, that'd be fine man. I'm not in a rush, I can live with the LP pups and they do sound very nice. I'll just have to be careful.


Btw. I have blown the power tubes on three amps in as many weeks. I wonder if there's a correlation.
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Old 04-15-2013, 12:59 AM   #33
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I can't even go past 2 on my metal amps with a drummer without being too loud. And thats in a large jam room. I'm not sure how Cath pulls off the fully cranked Marshall 900 .


I know it, I used to play louder when I was still with my obnoxious ass drummer, but never cranked, I mean I got to 6 occasionally on the Bugera but that was it
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^I went to 6 on one of my Blue Doodoos. I am going to drag the other one out next weekend as well as the 6505. Put them through the paces. The damn 5150's/6505's are just monsters.... past 3 and I don't hear the drums.

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Yeah, that'd be fine man. I'm not in a rush, I can live with the LP pups and they do sound very nice. I'll just have to be careful.


Jesus... It's not the sixties... this is why we have attenuators. You could actually use one.


I'll see how loud I can get my 6505 before the tubes break up.







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Btw. I have blown the power tubes on three amps in as many weeks. I wonder if there's a correlation.


Well if you are going to make a tube commit suicide that is the way to do it!
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The answer: Stupid loud as all hell. I have tried with my 6505+ 112, it's quite an effort to get power tube breakup, I got to 8 on the dial before I got any. Very, very loud
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Wtf use is an attenuator? I need volume, not distortion. Don't forget, I used to use the JCM900 as a pedal.
I'm probably gonna run two amps once I sort out what happened to the Abbey. I think I'm gonna need another 1960.
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Nah, they just need to drink more beer.
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^I went to 6 on one of my Blue Doodoos. I am going to drag the other one out next weekend as well as the 6505. Put them through the paces. The damn 5150's/6505's are just monsters.... past 3 and I don't hear the drums.

Jesus... It's not the sixties... this is why we have attenuators. You could actually use one.

I'll see how loud I can get my 6505 before the tubes break up.

Well if you are going to make a tube commit suicide that is the way to do it!


my blue voodoo doesn't even start to get lout until around noon. i actually did get it all the way up, but it was really damn loud. i don't know which guitar i used, but i definitely got feeback.
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my blue voodoo doesn't even start to get lout until around noon. i actually did get it all the way up, but it was really damn loud. i don't know which guitar i used, but i definitely got feeback.


My Blue one didn't even really start to work until 2. The black one is on full by the time you hit 1.
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