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Old 04-04-2013, 08:30 AM   #1
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Lack of Comprehension? Or lack of a decent picking technique...?

Hi all

I've been working on Death's Lack of Comprehension lately, and the short riff after the solo is proving really tough at full speed.

Here's a link to the song. The riff starts at 2:17:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7j8vUbMmOwM

I've transcribed the riff as this (see below).

I've listened to it slowed down and I think they sometimes play 13 and 5 palm muted pedal sixteenths rather than the full 14 and 6 I have transcribed. For the purposes of this question though, let's presume they play 14 and 6 every time.

The way I'm approaching it is to start each run of pm pedals on an upstroke. I'm really curious to know whether others would do the same, and if not whether they could cleanly get the 14/6 notes in starting on a down.

If anyone would like to share their thoughts I'd love to hear them. And if anyone wishes to upload a video demonstrating, then all the better!

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Old 04-04-2013, 10:49 AM   #2
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I would start each eighth note with an upstroke and continue with a downstroke on the palm mutes. This sort of tremolo picking on the palm mutes is usually done starting with a dowstroke, at least that's how pretty much everyone I know would do it. But if you find it easier to start with an upstroke, by all means do it!

Edit: nice thread title though!

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Old 04-04-2013, 04:24 PM   #3
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Thanks for the reply Carl, and I'm glad you liked the title!

I know what you are saying about usually starting with a DS, and I usually do. But this riff seems tough that way.

Getting to the 8th notes seems to be the problem. If you start the 16ths with a down, the last note is an up, which makes the movement to the next 8th note very difficult, especially when you have to skip a string.

If you slow the riff right down, I think that the last note is often missed on the original recording.... Perhaps for this very reason?

I don't suppose you have the means to video or audio record and upload yourself playing it? I'd love to hear/see it.

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Old 04-25-2013, 07:52 AM   #4
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Quick bump for anyone who starts with a down stroke and is willing to upload a audio/video of clip of themselves playing it properly (cleanly getting the 14/6 notes in starting on a down...)

I'd love to hear/see it!
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Old 04-25-2013, 12:35 PM   #5
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Quick bump for anyone who starts with a down stroke and is willing to upload a audio/video of clip of themselves playing it properly (cleanly getting the 14/6 notes in starting on a down...)

I'd love to hear/see it!


This isn't me but you can see he's hitting the higher notes with a downstroke:
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Old 04-25-2013, 01:18 PM   #6
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you can see he's hitting the higher notes with a downstroke


But it's the lower notes (the "pedals") that I'm asking about... Sorry if that wasn't clear in my last post.
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Old 04-25-2013, 05:14 PM   #7
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I've always played the high notes with a downstroke then back to the pedaling starting on a downstroke. It might not be the most efficient way but it seems to work fine for me.
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Old 04-25-2013, 07:47 PM   #8
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Hi JA91.

Thanks for sharing. So, with that pattern are you able to get 14 / 6 pedals in every time?
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Old 04-27-2013, 10:24 AM   #9
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Yeah, I don't seem to have a problem with hitting the notes as long as I practice it for a little bit, haven't played that riff in a while.
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Old 04-28-2013, 12:59 PM   #10
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I would play the 8th notes with a down and then start the tremolo PM's with a down as well.
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