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Old 04-17-2013, 04:35 PM   #1
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An Amp?

Hey guys, i need an advice.

I just need an amp with pop-punk/punk-rock tones and i really don't know what look for.

I've got a 200/300 euros budget, any advice?
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Old 04-17-2013, 06:08 PM   #2
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your best bet is getting a used crate 2x12 amp. i saw this punk band open up for voodoo glow skulls at my local bar and they had a crate gt 2x12 combo and that thing was roaring and cutting through very well. they did have it miked though. the bands style was very similar to old fast bad religion.
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Old 04-17-2013, 06:21 PM   #3
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how flexible is your budget?
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Old 04-17-2013, 06:45 PM   #4
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Do you mean older pop/punk like green day sum 41 and the ataris or newer stuff like a day to remember?
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Old 04-17-2013, 07:14 PM   #5
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your best bet is getting a used crate 2x12 amp. i saw this punk band open up for voodoo glow skulls at my local bar and they had a crate gt 2x12 combo and that thing was roaring and cutting through very well. they did have it miked though. the bands style was very similar to old fast bad religion.

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Old 04-17-2013, 07:19 PM   #6
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your best bet is getting a used crate 2x12 amp. i saw this punk band open up for voodoo glow skulls at my local bar and they had a crate gt 2x12 combo and that thing was roaring and cutting through very well. they did have it miked though. the bands style was very similar to old fast bad religion.


no.

for 300 euros, just no.
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Old 04-17-2013, 07:22 PM   #7
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Do you mean older pop/punk like green day sum 41 and the ataris or newer stuff like a day to remember?


I dont think you know what pop punk is like at all.



look at used Marshall JCM 2000 DSL 401's. You'll have to look hard and probably expand your budget a bit, but it'll be worth it.
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no.

for 300 euros, just no.



i meant to save him money hes playing punk how great does his tone need to be?
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i meant to save him money hes playing punk how great does his tone need to be?

There are a lot of punk bands that sound amazing. where have you been the last 25 yrs?
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There are a lot of punk bands that sound amazing. where have you been the last 25 yrs?

i like some punk but do you really need a nice tube amp and great tone to play power chords?
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i like some punk but do you really need a nice tube amp and great tone to play power chords?

That can be said about any style really.

I have played in punk bands for years, and yes I need a nice tube amp to play through.

I have never seen a good punk band that played crap amps It is not the 1970's any more. Most of the Punk I listen to is Marshall JCM800/900/2000,Peavey, Mesa, with an occasional Bogner,Engl.
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i like some punk but do you really need a nice tube amp and great tone to play power chords?


Yes?
Just because it's metal doesn't mean it's shit man, expand your horizons a little bit. And punk isn't all just powerchords, there's a lot of musicians that are extremely talented that just have a love for punk and the like.
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i meant to save him money hes playing punk how great does his tone need to be?


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Old 04-17-2013, 09:27 PM   #14
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you guys are ridiculous you act like the crate amp is terrible when i only made the suggestion after seeing that punk band using it and they sounded great. i was only trying to help.

i just never seen punk as something to care about tone wise. the only punk i have listened to a lot is old school 80s stuff and those records sound like shit production wise. i doubt nice tones and musicianship was the point back then.
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you guys are ridiculous you act like the crate amp is terrible when i only made the suggestion after seeing that punk band using it and they sounded great. i was only trying to help.

i just never seen punk as something to care about tone wise. the only punk i have listened to a lot is old school 80s stuff and those records sound like shit production wise. i doubt nice tones and musicianship was the point back then.


Your suggestion is appreciated, but for 300 euros you can get much better than some junk Crate amp.
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I dont think you know what pop punk is like at all.



look at used Marshall JCM 2000 DSL 401's. You'll have to look hard and probably expand your budget a bit, but it'll be worth it.

Nice advice! Thank you doooode!
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Old 04-18-2013, 09:14 PM   #18
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I'd say things like a used Classic 30, Crate V50, SuperChamp, Valveking, DSL, Tweaker, etc should work.

I'm going to assume your budget is not flexible.


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i meant to save him money hes playing punk how great does his tone need to be?

Don't let Cathbard see that
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Old 04-18-2013, 09:24 PM   #19
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metalchris87: Let the record show that the TS is obviously concerned about his tone if he is asking about getting an amp on a forum, so acting as though tone is not a relevant factor to consider is a bit ridiculous, don't you think?

TS: I think that if you can snag a DSL401 for your price, do it, it will be a great amp. I don't know if you will be able to find it on that budget, but I have seen crazier deals.

Besides the Marshall, Jet City (if you have access to them where you are at) would be a decent grab, the JCA 20 or 22 would do nicely for you. 311's suggestions would also do you nicely. It would also help if you gave some bands whose tones you would like to get close to, just for us to use as a base, be as specific as you can, we are lazy and unimaginative here so we need lots of details

Also, answer Dave_Mc's question!
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I'm going to assume your budget is not flexible.


i'm not gonna suggest an slo or anything, lol, it's just that he seems to be in europe and thomann has the jet cities back in again for pretty killer prices (the jca22h head for ~240 euros and the 50 watt head for ~290), so if he can stretch even slightly, he can get something pretty killer. They don't have the combos, though, which will increase the overall price

No worries if he can't. i figure if he knows his options, then he can make his mind up.

But I'd agree (assuming that's what you're implying, i don't want to put words into your mouth ), having someone say they have 300 euros only to get suggestions for things at 800 euros is annoying
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