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Old 04-19-2013, 08:15 AM   #1
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hey all you vegemetarians out there

why are you not eating meat? if you cared about the animals you would do something more than just not eat them. you not eating them has absolutely no impact on getting anywhere close to saving a single baby chicken from being sluahgtered for its breasts.

dont say we has veggie thread, im the last 2 posts
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Old 04-19-2013, 08:17 AM   #2
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Old 04-19-2013, 08:18 AM   #3
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you not eating them has absolutely no impact on getting anywhere close to saving a single baby chicken from being sluahgtered for its breasts.

Erm... yes it does. Animals bred for food are bred and killed to demand. Demand less, less are killed.
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Old 04-19-2013, 08:18 AM   #4
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if vegetarians really cared about animals they wouldn't eat animal food. animals get hungry too.

horses like carrots.
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Old 04-19-2013, 08:21 AM   #5
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but you have no idea. no matter how many vegemetarians you convert, you will never stop me from serving hundreds of nuggets, mcchickens, and crispy and grilled patties, and pounds over pounds of hamburger meat, every single hour of the day (except3-5am). there is absolutely on impact on the consumption of meat in anywhere, period.
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Old 04-19-2013, 08:27 AM   #6
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Erm... yes it does. Animals bred for food are bred and killed to demand. Demand less, less are killed.

And less are bred, as well.
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Old 04-19-2013, 08:28 AM   #7
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So vegetarians are just poultry antinatalists?
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why are you not eating meat?

Mainly because it grosses me out, but also health reasons and I wouldn't want to be the reason that animals are kept in horrible conditions then killed

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Erm... yes it does. Animals bred for food are bred and killed to demand. Demand less, less are killed.

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Old 04-19-2013, 08:31 AM   #9
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but you have no idea. no matter how many vegemetarians you convert, you will never stop me from serving hundreds of nuggets, mcchickens, and crispy and grilled patties, and pounds over pounds of hamburger meat, every single hour of the day (except3-5am). there is absolutely on impact on the consumption of meat in anywhere, period.



roughly 30% of the Indian population (of over a billion) is vegetarian; there are millions of others in countries around the world, do you really think that if all those people started eating a meat-based diet (average to their country) there would be no impact on the comsumption of meat.

Are you trolling or do you sir... have donkey brains?



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Old 04-19-2013, 08:31 AM   #10
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it doesnt. youve got mayb e 10% of the worlds population at most not eat meat. that does not help the cause at all. its avoiding the problem. just keep that in mind. someone else will always eat your burger you didnt buy.
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Old 04-19-2013, 08:35 AM   #11
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vegetarians do not only worry about eating animals and feeling bad about it.

some are religiously motivated.

again, others think of the economic difficulties - stopping world hunger by feeding humans instead of animals which are only raised to be eaten themselves.

lastly, some are concerned about the environmental issues of keeping livestock, from brazilian rain forest being destroyed for new farmland to methane gas naturally produced by the animals which can affect our climate.

of course, some think eating too much meat, or some kinds like pork, is unhealthy.
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Old 04-19-2013, 08:39 AM   #12
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Because, becoming a vegetarian is the best way to save our planet (and feed everyone).

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environme...-meat-free-diet

http://www.guardian.co.uk/global-de...-crisis-warning

http://www.guardian.co.uk/global-de...P=SOCNETTXT6966

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"Professor Edgar Hertwich, the lead author of the report, said: "Animal products cause more damage than [producing] construction minerals such as sand or cement, plastics or metals. Biomass and crops for animals are as damaging as [burning] fossil fuels.""
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And less are bred, as well.

Which, if your issue is animal welfare, is not a problem.

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it doesnt. youve got mayb e 10% of the worlds population at most not eat meat. that does not help the cause at all. its avoiding the problem. just keep that in mind. someone else will always eat your burger you didnt buy.

No, they will buy the burger they were going to buy and I won't buy the burger I would buy.
If 10% are veggie (I don't have any statistics, so for arguments sake I will accept that), then there 10% less animals being killed for meat.

I don't understand if you are trolling here, the fact that a lot of other people do something in no way means you shouldn't avoid it, especially if you are trying to promote vegetarianism.
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Old 04-19-2013, 08:44 AM   #14
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Some people just don't feel comfortable eating an animal. For example I eat meat, but I have considered becoming a vegetarian. Not because I think I'm saving lives or anything, it's just it's a moral thing. Like for me, I can't kill an animal so do I really have the right to eat it? Probably not, but I still do. Hypocrisy!
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Old 04-19-2013, 09:46 AM   #15
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Idk...when I see cows grazing on 10 acres of fresh green grass, I can't imagine that being ''horrible conditions''. Isn't that their natural habitat?

If we weren't supposed to eat them, why are they so yummy?
I'm not a chicken fan though...I eat it but still...I love eggs though. And yeah horrible conditions...I eat eggs from home grown chickens on small farms (20 chickens max) usually, because you know...VIP.
But me not eating 3 eggs a day that I usually eat, will not stop people from growing chickens for eggs.

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And one more thing VEGETARIANS!!
Can you please not torture your babies/kids with veggies only? It has been proven that kids that don't eat meat don't grow the same as kids that do eat meat.
The human race eats meat since the beginning, we need it. You can say that you get enough proteins from vegetables, but you don't get the same enzymes, some acids or some sort of stuff I can't remember...Until you can grow a steak on a tree, please stop torturing your kids. They need meat at least once a week.
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Moral vegetarians often strongly oppose meat industries. Vegans go the extra mile opposing anything having anything to do with the meat industry.

Vegetarians who think meat is gross (which, it is if you think about it) may just be apathetic.
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Some people just don't feel comfortable eating an animal. For example I eat meat, but I have considered becoming a vegetarian. Not because I think I'm saving lives or anything, it's just it's a moral thing. Like for me, I can't kill an animal so do I really have the right to eat it? Probably not, but I still do. Hypocrisy!
Same. In ten years I wouldn't be surprised if I am one.
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Idk...when I see cows grazing on 10 acres of fresh green grass, I can't imagine that being ''horrible conditions''. Isn't that their natural habitat?


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Well, in addition to some of the issues mentioned here...
My last GF (Now Ex) was/is a vegetarian.
And she was a DAMN GOOD COOK.

My now ex-wife (She was before the now Ex-GF) used to watch a lot of cooking shows.
(And while she was great with the various deserts, when it came to vegetables, she was REALLY bad at it).
When the cook would say, drop a lobster in a pot of boiling water, or hack the head off a fish, it made me feel very uncomfortable. In the case of the fish, sure, they were already dead, but it still made me feel uneasy just the same. All this was years before I became a vegetarian.
Fast forward a few years (Vegetarian GF was in the picture now)...
GF was a good cook and loved to cook, so when we were living together, she cooked for the both of us a lot. I cooked as well though.
Now, maybe it was the lack of meat in my diet, but beef and then pork started making me sick...
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So that left chicken and seafood.
I was never real big on fish anyway, so I decided to go vegetarian at that point.

So my reasons are a mix of moral and health reasons.
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Old 04-19-2013, 09:59 AM   #19
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I'd become a vegetarian if there was a large movement to for the reasons Simsimius posted. Seeing as there's not though, I will continue to enjoy meat.
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if you cared about the animals you would do something more than just not eat them.


This is the exact reason why research facilities were attacked. Vegetarians need to know they're doing something by passively not eating meat, or else they'll start taking it out on society.
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