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Old 04-19-2013, 08:33 PM   #1
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The Tr00 Metalcore Thread

I'm bored and I've been listening to a bunch of "Tr00" Metalcore bands these days, or "Zero Wave" if you like. I expect most people consider the First Wave of Metalcore to be Killswitch Engage or something so I feel "Zero Wave" is a better name. So anyway I decided to make a thread to group together Oldskoolmetalcore things.

Here are some great bands from the Zero Wave of metalcore (or in the style thereof):
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Zao*

Groundwork

Deadguy*

Rorschach

Earth Crisis

Shai Hulud*

Converge*

Blacklisted

Knut*

Integrity

Botch*

Cave In*

108*

Coalesce

His Hero Is Gone (Technically crust but listen to them anyway)

Kiss It Goodbye

Enabler*

Disgrace

Rise and Fall

Twitching Tongues


Any more bands I've missed... just post 'em. Do what the fuq you like.
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Old 04-19-2013, 10:12 PM   #2
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Zao is still a top band for me, I love that they are still doing things their way.
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Old 04-19-2013, 10:23 PM   #3
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Converge is great - Earth Crisis and Zao too. Top stuff. I don't get why there's so much contention between fans of 'Old' and 'new' metalcore - I understand how a Converge fan might not like, for example, Asking Alexandria or Attack! Attack!, but the stuff like August Burns Red, Oh, Sleeper, that kinda thing, isn't it close enough in mentality to the 1st wave - Hatebreed, Converge, that kinda thing - to still enjoy?
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Old 04-19-2013, 10:41 PM   #4
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I actually love oh, sleeper. Anyone ever hear of Scarlet?
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Old 04-20-2013, 12:44 AM   #5
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Converge is great - Earth Crisis and Zao too. Top stuff. I don't get why there's so much contention between fans of 'Old' and 'new' metalcore - I understand how a Converge fan might not like, for example, Asking Alexandria or Attack! Attack!, but the stuff like August Burns Red, Oh, Sleeper, that kinda thing, isn't it close enough in mentality to the 1st wave - Hatebreed, Converge, that kinda thing - to still enjoy?


No it's not. Also putting Hatebreed and Converge next to each other like that is horrible.
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Old 04-20-2013, 03:49 AM   #6
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Converge is great - Earth Crisis and Zao too. Top stuff. I don't get why there's so much contention between fans of 'Old' and 'new' metalcore - I understand how a Converge fan might not like, for example, Asking Alexandria or Attack! Attack!, but the stuff like August Burns Red, Oh, Sleeper, that kinda thing, isn't it close enough in mentality to the 1st wave - Hatebreed, Converge, that kinda thing - to still enjoy?





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Yo, Botch????




Anywho. Pretty sure this is metalcore. I don't care either way, Mike used to post it and it ****ing rules

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Old 04-20-2013, 09:34 AM   #8
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Converge is great - Earth Crisis and Zao too. Top stuff. I don't get why there's so much contention between fans of 'Old' and 'new' metalcore - I understand how a Converge fan might not like, for example, Asking Alexandria or Attack! Attack!, but the stuff like August Burns Red, Oh, Sleeper, that kinda thing, isn't it close enough in mentality to the 1st wave - Hatebreed, Converge, that kinda thing - to still enjoy?


Not really. 1st Wave is pretty much just bad Shai Hulud worship mixed with At the Gates riffs. It's barely hardcore, where as Zero Wave has tonnes of Hardcore in it. They had good intentions... but kinda missed the whole point.

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Doesn't have the heaviness of the other stuff, but it is pretty influential none the less.
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Old 04-20-2013, 11:11 AM   #9
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Ha, totally forgot about botched.
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Not a band I ever really liked that much, not sure why because I should. Lot's of elements I like, but they just don't do much for me.
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Old 04-20-2013, 02:04 PM   #11
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Why make a tr00 thread and only involve shit you like?
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It's more that I forgot to add them, not that I'm playing the favoritism card xD I was just saying. They're added now, no need to get yo' panties in a twist ^_^

Also it's songs like this (Cave In 1999) That make me think that maybe modern Chugcore is more akin to Zero Wave Metalcore than the KsE style stuff, I mean check out from around 1:30 till about 2:10:



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And yeah, I remember that band, awesome stuff. When I first heard them I was told it was modern screamo, but it does sound pretty damn metalcore.
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Dude thanks for putting this together. It's making finding this stuff a shit ton easier.
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Old 04-21-2013, 09:37 PM   #14
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Would Poison the Well fall under this category?

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I would say so.
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You should take Duck Duck Goose off that list..
Also I always thought of HHIG as crust.. but people should listen to them so they should stay.
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HHIG is crust. Definitely not metalcore.
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I shall modify the list then.

Honestly don't know enough about crust to tell but I'll trust you guys on this one.
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Anywho. Pretty sure this is metalcore. I don't care either way, Mike used to post it and it ****ing rules


Takaru rules so ****ing much. It definitely falls on the line between metalcore and skramz. If you're digging Takaru, check out Zann. Very similar. Three Years in the Desert is a great album.
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Zann rules. One of the first screamo bands I listened to back in like '09. Man.
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